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Minirig 3.

Postby Arpangel » Wed May 12, 2021 9:39 am

Just bought a Minirig 3, incredible things, I’m using it for my i Pad music apps, and my Microgranny.
If anyone is contemplating a high quality small speaker, this is it, I could easily do a small gig with this, and two would sound incredible.
I was a bit sceptical at first, until my partners son bought one ages ago, that was the 2, this 3 is majorly impressive, very open and realistic sound, great bass, from such a small speaker.

https://minirigs.co.uk/speakers/bluetooth-minirig-3

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Postby The Elf » Wed May 12, 2021 9:52 am

They look a really useful device. Nice find! :thumbup:
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Postby Ben Asaro » Wed May 12, 2021 12:47 pm

LOL at the ad copy, “The mini rig 3 has more than double the power of the minirig 2, that means twice as loud” ... say what now?

I’ve been looking for small monitors for my eurorack for monitoring purposes. This might fit the bill.
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Postby n o i s e f l e ur » Wed May 12, 2021 1:42 pm

They're okay for a speaker that's mostly battery, but I was quite disappointed by them. The bass in particular is the usual fairly one-note affair you would expect from such an arrangement, and they lose their settings regularly (and are fiddly to begin with).


There's no magic, physics wins again.

If you're looking for small monitors for your eurorack setup, I'd recommend a set of Genelec 8010s instead. There's enough headroom on those you can EQ substantial (and musical) low-end into proceedings - and they sound like monitors - not some dodgy ghettoblaster.
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Postby blinddrew » Wed May 12, 2021 1:55 pm

Or, if you're on a budget, have a look at the small Mackies.
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Postby The Elf » Wed May 12, 2021 2:01 pm

Handy for that time on stage between me being set up and the PA being ready. At the moment I use an old iPhone speaker dock!
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Re: Minirig 3.

Postby n o i s e f l e ur » Wed May 12, 2021 2:08 pm

Yep, they have their uses, definitely - and they're impressively loud - but they're not great speakers.

As well as the small Mackies, you could jump up a size on the Gennys and get much better bass-extension than using headroom+EQ on the 8010s.

Of course, if portability and independence from the mains-supply is important . . . they're probably the only game in town, unless we consider powerpacks or generators etc. Unless someone knows of a better alternative?
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Postby forumuser840717 » Wed May 12, 2021 3:32 pm

I have some of the Crookwood SoundBuckets that I use for talkback, mono checks, easily portable basic speakers to replace Fostex 6301 and ASC Powered Monitors, and listening in the garden or around the house where I don't have other speakers.

They're more expensive than the minirigs but, when I compared them, it was very obvious that the extra cost was buying a lot more in terms of sound and build quality.

I do wonder, though, about Crispin's fascination with the paint tin format. What with the Paintpot preamps and now the SoundBuckets, I'm wondering whether, in a past life, he was painter / decorator!

And there's a dedicated SoundBuckets website which might be more up to date.
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Postby Sam Spoons » Mon May 17, 2021 11:44 am

I've just bought a Minirig 3, sounds great but I wanted to use it for guitar/looper practice, I've got the app and found the 'live mode' which gives enough volume (the standard aux 'high gain' setting is not enough for guitar)* but seems very unreliable, not connecting most of the time or playing for a short time and then stopping. It doesn't retain settings and the app is absolutely cr@p, taking several attempts to connect to the speaker most times...

Edit :- Got it working but I have no idea what I've done... Now it won't connect to my phone BT and there is no way of adjusting volume without the app :madas:

Update, got it to connect now and seems to be working ok. Didn't help that I had a dodgy lead but that was only part of the problem.
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Postby Sam Spoons » Mon May 17, 2021 12:52 pm

New update, gone away to do something else and now it'll either play from the aux or connect to BT but not both, the app connected second attempt but still no noise :madas: :madas: :madas:
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Postby Sam Spoons » Tue May 18, 2021 11:44 pm

It's stupidly complicated, these things are as far from "plug and play" as it is possible to get. All I want to do is plug my looper into an aux and hear it play at a decent volume, but I can't connect to BT if I switch the MR3 on by plugging a lead into an aux and if I start it up in BT mode it sometimes connects to the app and sometimes doesn't, and either way it sometimes plays the signal from the aux and sometimes doesn't. My Bose Revolve + just gets on with the job, but TBF it has physical controls on the unit to select source and adjust volume which the MR3 doesn't.

I'm going to have to evaluate the MR3 thoroughly over the next week or so as if it can't do the guitar/looper thing without jumping through hoops it's going back as 'unfit for purpose'...
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Postby n o i s e f l e ur » Wed May 19, 2021 1:37 am

Well . . . I did try to warn you - but I obviously didn't go far enough in enumerating the many deficiencies in the complete product-package. So . . . the app is utter junk. The physical controls are fiddly, cryptic, and lack decent feedback. I can't speak to the Bluetooth aspect because f*ck Bluetooth in the face - but by far the most troublesome aspect is getting the system to reliably operate in stereo (or to remember settings both during and between sessions).

Did I mention they don't sound very good?

Personally, my experience with the MR3 leads me to suspect the many people hyping these are doing so for reasons not related to honest evaluation.

In fairness, I bought my set purely for recreational as opposed to any performance or monitoring purpose but honestly, I don't think they're particlarly fit for that task either - unless telling your mates "just hang on a sec, they definitely do work . . . let me just try this . . . or this . . . okay, I'll restart the bloody things and try again" is your idea of fun.
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Re: Minirig 3.

Postby Arpangel » Wed May 19, 2021 8:16 am

I’m not using this via wireless, just the hardware aux input, works fine.
Personally, I haven’t heard anything at the price, or size, that sounds as good and has the convenience, no cables, fits in my portable modular bag perfectly, all I need it for, programming away from home.
It’s not really fair to compare this with the likes of Genelec, simply on price, the Genny's aren’t so much better, plus, you’re into cabling, power etc, and I’ve never liked the Genelec sound, boomy, very coloured, and definitely not worth the overblown prices.
The MR's do the job, and sound better than most if not all of the competition regarding this application, and price bracket.
I’ve listened to my friends MR for months, and my opinion is based solely on sound, nothing else, otherwise I wouldn’t have bought it.
Ive been outside my friends room and thought he had his main system on, being very surprised to see the MiniRigs.
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Postby Andy McBain » Wed May 19, 2021 12:30 pm

I love my Minirig 3's for blasting tunes in the kitchen or outdoors, and they sound suitably big and entertaining for that. As a monitoring or performance tool, I'm not sure I would go there. The app seems utterly hopeless, so I'm fortunate that I enjoy the sound of them in a stereo setup and don't have to muck about :thumbup:
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Postby Arpangel » Wed May 19, 2021 12:33 pm

Andy McBain wrote:I love my Minirig 3's for blasting tunes in the kitchen or outdoors, and they sound suitably big and entertaining for that. As a monitoring or performance tool, I'm not sure I would go there. The app seems utterly hopeless, so I'm fortunate that I enjoy the sound of them in a stereo setup and don't have to muck about :thumbup:

That’s exactly it, they are what they are, good enough for on the fly programming, and they do sound big, I can’t think of any alternatives, at the price, or size.
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