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Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:14 am
by Sam Spoons
The D190 had a sintered windshield, not sure if it even had foam inside (I did have one back in the day and definitely dismantled it but can't remember for sure, gut feeling is that it didn't though). It was not a great mic, definitely the budget end of the market despite the apparently 'revolutionary' windshield basket. AKG have made a few turkeys though, I have a C5900 and D3600 (reasonably priced electret capacitor and dynamic stage vocal mics respectively) both of which died years ago. They were actually pretty good sounding mics but the internal construction, particularly the capsule suspension in the C5900, was very badly designed and the electronics was not very robust either.

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:43 am
by Arpangel
Sam Spoons wrote:The D190 had a sintered windshield, not sure if it even had foam.

Don’t you just hate that word "sintered" ugh, anything "sintered" is to be avoided.

:-|

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:04 am
by shufflebeat
"Sputtered!"

Should only be seen in crime novels.

I feel a new thread coming on.

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:25 am
by Arpangel
shufflebeat wrote:"Sputtered!"

Should only be seen in crime novels.

I feel a new thread coming on.

"Crimped" is another one...ugh.
Anything that is sintered as well as being crimped and sputtered has to be the pits.

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:51 am
by blinddrew
"Security is not a dirty word Blackadder. Crevice on the other hand..."

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:08 am
by Arpangel
blinddrew wrote:"Security is not a dirty word Blackadder. Crevice on the other hand..."

I think this is one for the Musicians Lounge, or the Musicians "Lunge" as I like to call it.

:D

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:10 am
by VTypeV4
I love my D190e, great on brash sources such as snare and brass instruments. :thumbup:

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:37 am
by The Red Bladder
AKG is a funny company in that it made a series of very ropey budget mics of which the 190 was one. The D1200 and the D202 (I have four of these) are magnificent on drums and brass and are definitely a 'secret weapon'.

Back in the 60s and 70s, there were loads of rubbish dynamic mics being sold by almost every company. Even Sennheiser put out some dogs onto the market right after the war. But between the dross, a few gems were to be found like the MD441, MD421, D222, D202, D1200.

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:45 am
by Arpangel
The Red Bladder wrote:AKG is a funny company in that it made a series of very ropey budget mics of which the 190 was one. The D1200 and the D202 (I have four of these) are magnificent on drums and brass and are definitely a 'secret weapon'.

Back in the 60s and 70s, there were loads of rubbish dynamic mics being sold by almost every company. Even Sennheiser put out some dogs onto the market right after the war. But between the dross, a few gems were to be found like the MD441, MD421, D222, D202, D1200.

The D202 is a great vocal/spoken word mic, mine has a huge hum on it for some reason, I must fix it.

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:56 am
by Hugh Robjohns
I know the D190e was a budget mic in the grand scheme of things, and no where near the quality of the D202 and its ilk... but then neither was the price.

When I was at university I did a lot of work with the Students' Union rigging and operating PA systems for gigs and events.

I think we had six D190s, and, as I recall, they weren't terrible. I remember using them a lot on toms, and on sax and brass. I think I used them as kit overheads quite a lot too... (probably helped to counter the horrible piezo tweeters in the PA systems we used early on...)

The D190s were used alongside a lot of other typical mics of the day -- lots of Shure SM57s and 58s, and we used the original AKG D12s on kick drums. The memory is fading, but I think we also had some SM87s -- there were definitely some phantom-powered mics in the system, anyway -- and on 'special occasions' I borrowed two or four D202s from the student radio station... :)

I remember recording a couple of final year students in a flute/piano modern jazz duet concert using the D202s, and that recording became part of their degree submission!

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:34 pm
by The Red Bladder
Arpangel wrote:The D202 is a great vocal/spoken word mic, mine has a huge hum on it for some reason, I must fix it.
If it has one of those mini-Tuchel plugs, then they often get wired up incorrectly as they were different from the Sennheiser wiring on the 441 and the 421.

I got two of mine off eBay for £75 the pair because the vendor thought they were defective - I took a punt on the cables being wired as per the Sennheisers and that is exactly what had happened. They still had the frequency response test-plots and the guarantee card with them - I wonder if I should send the cards in!

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:34 pm
by MOF
"Sputtered!"

Should only be seen in crime novels.

Well that rules out all gold sputtered membranes in condensor microphones then. ;)

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:40 pm
by MOF
The memory is fading, but I think we also had some SM87s -- there were definitely some phantom-powered mics in the system

I think the SM87 was released in the last two or three decades Hugh, almost certainly not in our college days. I couldn’t easily find its history on the Shure website. The phantom powered microphones might have been from the AKG 451 family.

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:02 pm
by mellowsouls
FWIW, I don’t think it’s a great mic, I just don’t like throwing things away!

I do really rate the D130 as a drum overhead, though...

Re: AKG D190e - is this mic a secret?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:13 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
MOF wrote:I think the SM87 was released in the last two or three decades Hugh

1983/84 apparently, so a little after my time at uni... so can't have been that, then! I'm going to have to trawl through the photo albums and see if I can spot what it was anywhere!

The phantom powered microphones might have been from the AKG 451 family.

We didn't have that kind of budget! :D