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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Dynamic Mike » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:55 am

Stan wrote: My monitors only go up to 22kHz.

Does that make them sub-woofers?
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Stan » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:46 am

Dynamic Mike wrote:
Stan wrote: My monitors only go up to 22kHz.

Does that make them sub-woofers?

When i think about it, i suppose it does.

Hugh Robjohns wrote:I think maybe you need to get out more... :D

and walk the dog.
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby geefunk » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:43 pm

Mike Lynch wrote:
Stan wrote:I imagine ElecTrika-MixTek should be pleased with the pedigree of the responses.
But let's keep things on the leash.
There are technical issues with K9 frequencies.
My converters, and many others i'm sure, shave everything above 20kHz - so that rules out the upper end - 50kHz etc. You may need a Lynx or some such doggy frendly AD/DA. Would u not? Not to mention the monitors! My monitors only go up to 22kHz.

Very good points!

shouldn't that be 'very good pointers'? :D
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Ed_J90 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:16 am

must admit I had to do a CD for someone who breeds ponies for children :lol: I thought it was a joke at first till I got the email with a list of effects and sounds they wanted to use so the pony would not be alarmed by them.....

so there is a market out there for animals :lol:
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby grab » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:41 pm

Looks like a cocker spaniel puppy to me. (As the owner of two myself.) Yes, cocker spaniels are well recommended - lovely dogs.

On the music thing, our dogs stay well out of the way when I'm mixing. They love sitting by my feet under the computer desk when I'm doing anything else (it's nice and cosy in there), but the moment the music starts they're out of there.

Oh, and to the OP: if you want frequencies past 20kHz, no soundcard is going to do that. Even kit that says it can sample at 96kHz (or more) is going to have low-pass filters on the output to prevent ultrasonics. So you're either looking at specialist signal-generator cards, or modifying a regular soundcard.
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Combo » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:10 am

Some years back I bought Sun Ra's Heliocentric Worlds. The first time I played it (at the correct pitch) my friend on the left there jumped up and barked at the nearest speaker. I find it hard to believe she found free jazz any more disturbing than any other type of music. But that is what she did.

I agree with the notion that marketing it to pet owners makes more sense than trying to make something that dogs actually like. In my career as a video tape op, I regularly had to run off a 2 hr loop of fish and birds doing what they do. The name of the program was Cat TV. And the number of copies I made makes me think a lot of people bought it.
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby ceejay » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:58 am

... and just in case there's anyone who doesn't believe that dogs recognise particular music ...

Many years ago, the TV station I worked for played a program called "Number 96" as the last program at night. We used to watch it and when the closing credits were rolling we'd get up and take our dog (an Afghan hound) for a walk.

The program had a very distinctive theme tune.

A couple of years later, we were playing repeats of the program in the afternoon "soap" slot. I was home for lunch one day and was dutifully monitoring the station. When the end credits came up on "Number 96", the dog ran to the front door.
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby steve355 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:12 am


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Leona Lewis has a very good range....
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Bob Moose » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:18 am

The 20kHz limit on the loudspeakers is not such a big problem. Most animals, including dogs, also hear below 20kHz fortunately.

But it's way more difficult, if not impossible, to understand what happens in the dog's brain. Animals should not have the same "feelings", "loves" and "nightmares" as we do. The "love" or "hate" concepts may not exist, or may exist differently for animals... I guess your track can only be done by trial-and-error... which requires the presence of the dog in the studio.

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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Bob Moose » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:28 am

I forgot --

This weekend, someone brought a dog to my place. It was a peaceful big black dog, similar to the one that Led Zeppelin quote in their fourth album.

Someone played the didjeridu (well, a PVC version of it, with a pretty low Ab fundamental), and it made the dog go crazy. Not sure if she appreciated it or not, but at least it had an impressive effect on her for sure ;)

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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby ElecTrika-MixTek » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:13 pm

For what it's worth, my initial research indicates a distaste for music that is overly compressed with digital distortion artefacts. Classic rock music with lots of dynamics and cool sounds seems much more palatable to them. :beamup:
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby chew_rocket » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:24 pm

I had a dog which would sing along to every single david grey tune, but absolutely nothing else. He even started howling if you resighted the lyrics to him in spoken word. We could never figure out why.

I miss that dog.
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby Dynamic Mike » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:36 pm

Bob Moose wrote:The 20kHz limit on the loudspeakers is not such a big problem. Most animals, including dogs, also hear below 20kHz fortunately.

The 20kHz limit was to prevent humans from hearing it to circumvent any copyright issues because I was gonna use 'Down Under'.

I think you'll find Zeppelin's black dog was depressed ;)
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby emitime » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:32 pm

:lol: I have the same problem with my dog. She's a hound and provides a very poor howling harmony, especially on the bends!
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Re: Music for Dogs

Postby mumblinstevedubya » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:14 am

Have you tried some Bow Wow Wow? :)
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