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classic tape echo

Postby suni » Sun May 01, 2011 10:17 am

Hello everyone, I just read something about sam philips and his classic tape echo, also an article on soundonsound about how to feed a tape echo into your daw(unfortunately I am not a hardware guy), also a modern example of michael braucer using it in coldplay album x&y(I love it). My question is as a home studio lover, I can't get my hands on any vintage gear of something, is there a recreation of this classic tape echo in the digital world? I heard about logic tape delay, but I am pc user, can anybody give me your recommdation on this, any plugins you think is quite close, I really like that cold play sound, thanks!
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby ef37a » Sun May 01, 2011 12:24 pm

How about a good delay pedal?

There is now one on the market with a proper HV valve stage in it (cough!).
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby artifus » Sun May 01, 2011 12:47 pm

here's a list of free vst delays to get you going...

...and you may find some opinion and recommendations here:

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showf ... &fpart=all
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby suni » Sun May 01, 2011 12:53 pm

I don't know which pedal you talking about, I guess that is for live musician. All I need it is a Good for value software plugin, for effects, which will enhance the quality of the whole mix.
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby suni » Sun May 01, 2011 12:54 pm

I don't know about free plugins, are they good enough?
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby ef37a » Sun May 01, 2011 12:57 pm

suni wrote:I don't know which pedal you talking about, I guess that is for live musician. All I need it is a Good for value software plugin, for effects, which will enhance the quality of the whole mix.
Ah! Sorry I thought you would be starting from live guitar.

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Re: classic tape echo

Postby suni » Sun May 01, 2011 2:01 pm

no worries, dave! I like to make it more specific if I can, the music I like is nothing about hip-hop, it is more like old stuff, especially 60s,thanks!
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby ef37a » Sun May 01, 2011 2:12 pm

Hip-hop!!!!???
Who mentioned bloody hipperty-hop?

I am a 60's man thru' and thru'. Shads, Beatles,Stones.....Guitars you see!

But I must confess more into Bach etc and jazz these days.

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Re: classic tape echo

Postby Mixedup » Sun May 01, 2011 3:06 pm

Try GSi WatKat which isn't bad as a freebie emulation of the Watkins Copicat. Shoudl get you close enough to experiment. You can also get some tape-like delays from PSP Audioware's PSP84, or could try using a tape emulator like the free Bootsie Ferric and if your DAW permits it chain this after a standard delay plug-in and create a feedback loop. Not easy in Cubase, but you could always use something like DDMF Metaplugin for the routing.
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby Jack Ruston » Sun May 01, 2011 4:25 pm

Nothing sounds quite like a real tape echo. They are a pain to run and maintain but there's a reason why people keep doing it.

The Strymon El Capistan is close but it's cleaner and doesn't affect the dry signal in the same way as say an Echoplex which really adds a lot of character to the dry side.

In the computer there are a few options. Again, none quite get all the way there but it's a question of whether you want to spend hundreds on a vintage unit and then maintain it.

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Re: classic tape echo

Postby suni » Mon May 02, 2011 7:48 am

I can try psp84 or maybe ohmboyz( I don't like the interface anyway), as to watkat, I don't think it is for me. I am using cubase and sonar, but never chain effect like that before. Jack's suggestion is about pedals, whick I don't use.
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby Jack Ruston » Mon May 02, 2011 9:23 am

Sorry Suni, I missed your post saying software only.

You should try the SoundToys Echoboy demo. That does pretty much every kind of delay and is extremely tweakable. Again not perfectly accurate to the original tape echo models but very cool. Try it.

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Re: classic tape echo

Postby djangodeadman » Mon May 02, 2011 2:15 pm

If you're using Cubase, try Karlette.
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby BJG145 » Mon May 02, 2011 8:20 pm

Jack Ruston wrote:
You should try the SoundToys Echoboy demo.
(+1 for Echoboy. Seems popular at the moment.)
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Re: classic tape echo

Postby suni » Fri May 06, 2011 4:02 am

Sorry apply a bit late, thanks for all the advice, soundboy is definitely look cool and it use mainly for vocals I guess which I can definitely try, thanks again!
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