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Re: Tinnitus

Postby mammy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:12 pm

You should eat meat ,walnut and hazelnut regularly.I heard that They decrease the tinnitus.And control your D and B 12 vitamin.Get well soon.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby FrankF » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:54 pm

Zukan,
have you tried going private? A friend of mine eventually found a cure for a chronic skin condition after many months of failure with NHS / allergy testing / alternative diets etc. etc.
In desperation, he went to a Harley St specialist, and got a result within weeks.
Yes, it's very expensive, obviously.

I tried a company called Hush Tinnitus: they provide "tailored" .wav files that you're supposed to listen to once or twice a day. Unfortunately, I discovered after paying for the files that the therapy was not suitable for people who also have hyperacusis.
However, this solution is not by any means expensive, so it might be worth a try.

Have you explored ayurvedic medicine? Pete Townshend was asked about his T in an interview, and he said he'd had some success with this. In another interview, he mentions homeopathic therapy as having yielded some results.

There's also TRT, which I'm sure you're aware of...
Good luck.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby James Perrett » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:22 pm

adrian_k wrote:I have it again at the moment though, high pitched ringing mostly in the left but right now in both. I’ve been doing a lot with headphones recently, don’t know if that’s connected.

It may be worth checking that your ears aren't getting blocked up with wax if you haven't done so already. I find this happens when I've been using headphones extensively and often the first sign for me is increased tinnitus - presumably because the brain is increasing the gain to compensate for the lower signal.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby adrian_k » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:59 am

James Perrett wrote:
adrian_k wrote:I have it again at the moment though, high pitched ringing mostly in the left but right now in both. I’ve been doing a lot with headphones recently, don’t know if that’s connected.

It may be worth checking that your ears aren't getting blocked up with wax if you haven't done so already. I find this happens when I've been using headphones extensively and often the first sign for me is increased tinnitus - presumably because the brain is increasing the gain to compensate for the lower signal.

Thanks James, yes that has been as issue in the past definitely. At the moment I think I’m pretty clear but maybe worth a trip to the optician (how did they get the ear gig?). Did a few hours headphone mixing last night and it’s ringing like mad this morning, despite being as careful as possible with levels.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby IAA » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:40 am

It’s a tragic condition for most, but for professionals like Zukan who rely on their hearing for their careers it’s doubly so. I’m no expert on Tinnitus, although I understand the NHS better than most, but dependant on what the audiologists are saying, (and in this regard getting a second opinion is always a credible option), it might be worth exploring or asking for referral to some of the psychological responses to manage Tinnitus. There has been good research on the effectiveness of CBT in managing Tinnitus, and for Tinnitus that cannot be medically addressed (of which much is in that category unfortunately) it is increasingly a proven response and ought to be considered.
The issue for Zukan and others is whilst it can help deal with Tinnitus more effectively, improving mood, reducing stress and increasing self esteem, it doesn’t improve your hearing per se.
But in untreatable Tinnitus I’d recommend investigating with your Audiologist or GPs support some of these credible options.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Zukan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:37 am

FrankF wrote:Zukan,
have you tried going private? A friend of mine eventually found a cure for a chronic skin condition after many months of failure with NHS / allergy testing / alternative diets etc. etc.
In desperation, he went to a Harley St specialist, and got a result within weeks.
Yes, it's very expensive, obviously.

I tried a company called Hush Tinnitus: they provide "tailored" .wav files that you're supposed to listen to once or twice a day. Unfortunately, I discovered after paying for the files that the therapy was not suitable for people who also have hyperacusis.
However, this solution is not by any means expensive, so it might be worth a try.

Have you explored ayurvedic medicine? Pete Townshend was asked about his T in an interview, and he said he'd had some success with this. In another interview, he mentions homeopathic therapy as having yielded some results.

There's also TRT, which I'm sure you're aware of...
Good luck.

I've done all that Frank. No use.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Zukan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:38 am

IAA wrote:It’s a tragic condition for most, but for professionals like Zukan who rely on their hearing for their careers it’s doubly so. I’m no expert on Tinnitus, although I understand the NHS better than most, but dependant on what the audiologists are saying, (and in this regard getting a second opinion is always a credible option), it might be worth exploring or asking for referral to some of the psychological responses to manage Tinnitus. There has been good research on the effectiveness of CBT in managing Tinnitus, and for Tinnitus that cannot be medically addressed (of which much is in that category unfortunately) it is increasingly a proven response and ought to be considered.
The issue for Zukan and others is whilst it can help deal with Tinnitus more effectively, improving mood, reducing stress and increasing self esteem, it doesn’t improve your hearing per se.
But in untreatable Tinnitus I’d recommend investigating with your Audiologist or GPs support some of these credible options.

I followed up on CBT for two years via Healthy Minds here in Wycombe. No use.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Zukan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:40 am

I appreciate all the kind words and advice here. I have, sadly, had every conceivable treatment available, be it mental health, CBT, sound therapy and so on. Nothing has worked for me and the tinnitus has got progressively worse to the point whereby it is intolerable.

I am literally hanging on hoping some mad guy in a white coat hits on something that, at the very least, offers me some respite if not a cure.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby adrian_k » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:24 pm

Jeeze :thumbdown:
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby John Willett » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:57 pm

Zukan wrote:I appreciate all the kind words and advice here. I have, sadly, had every conceivable treatment available, be it mental health, CBT, sound therapy and so on. Nothing has worked for me and the tinnitus has got progressively worse to the point whereby it is intolerable.

I am literally hanging on hoping some mad guy in a white coat hits on something that, at the very least, offers me some respite if not a cure.

Just a thought .... could hypnotism work?

If it's all in the head, maybe you could be hypnotised not to hear it?

Just a thought ...
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby awjoe » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:16 pm

John Willett wrote:
Zukan wrote:I appreciate all the kind words and advice here. I have, sadly, had every conceivable treatment available, be it mental health, CBT, sound therapy and so on. Nothing has worked for me and the tinnitus has got progressively worse to the point whereby it is intolerable.

I am literally hanging on hoping some mad guy in a white coat hits on something that, at the very least, offers me some respite if not a cure.

Just a thought .... could hypnotism work?

If it's all in the head, maybe you could be hypnotised not to hear it?

Just a thought ...

Not a bad idea, actually. I've had tinnitus for decades, and it's got worse during that time. I used to be upset about it because it meant my hearing was damaged and because I was afraid it would get worse and drive me crazy. But now, most of the time, I don't notice it because it's there all the time and I'm used to it. It's kind of like when you're on a plane or a ferry and you just tune out the engine noise. I'm thinking that hypnotism might be a way to sculpt attention so that it tunes out that noise. I would give it a go if the tinnitus started getting to me.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby John Willett » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:11 am

awjoe wrote:I've had tinnitus for decades, and it's got worse during that time. I used to be upset about it because it meant my hearing was damaged and because I was afraid it would get worse and drive me crazy. But now, most of the time, I don't notice it because it's there all the time and I'm used to it. It's kind of like when you're on a plane or a ferry and you just tune out the engine noise. I'm thinking that hypnotism might be a way to sculpt attention so that it tunes out that noise. I would give it a go if the tinnitus started getting to me.

I'm like you - I have had tinnitus for quite a while now (no where near as bad as Zukan, though) and, most of the time, I am not really aware of it.

Only - like now - when there is a tinnitus thread or someone says "tinnitus" that I suddenly become aware of the constant whistling in my ears. :(
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby ManFromGlass » Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:55 pm

I have more of a high frequency white noise, almost like a fuzzy sine wave. I don’t know how I would test this but I have wondered if that sound is above 11k as my high frequency loss is down to about 11k. So I would wonder if the brain was generating those high frequencies rather than me hearing them.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Zukan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:19 pm

I'd swap your white noise for my high frequency sinewaves, ringing and triangle sounds any day...

John, good call on the hyponisis suggestion. However, I have never been able to get hypnotised for some reason. I tried it to stop smoking when I was a lot younger but nada....
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby ManFromGlass » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:32 pm

I wasn’t a good hypnosis subject but tried some self-hypnosis cassettes many years ago. I found they worked but it took a fair bit of practicing to learn to reach the relaxed state required. Seems I wasn’t as laid back and calm as I assumed I was even though my mom once said if I was any more laid back they’d be shoveling dirt on me.
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