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Re: Tinnitus

Postby awjoe » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:44 pm

Zukan wrote:I'd swap your white noise for my high frequency sinewaves, ringing and triangle sounds any day...

Mine's a sinewave/white noise combo which pulses, worse on one side of the head, no triangles though. I can't hear much above 12 K, but I don't know if the two are connected. The tinnitus is due to a loud explosive sound near my head when I was about 20. What brought yours about?
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Warhen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:22 pm

It so s*cks, doesn't it? :madas: I'm a lifelong musician but was fairly fortunate (and wise) to avoid hearing damage. I'm a singer/horn player, so I avoided the assault that a drummer and guitarist would endure. Even so, I took a couple of bad, high-decibel shots years back. I'm 64 now, and have had tinnitus for years on the lower end. After, however, playing for a year with a rock band and standing in front of a very hard-hitting drummer, I developed a new level of higher-end tinnitus on top of it! In fact, at some point, pre-COVID, the ears got really bad- sensitivity to noise in general, nerve pain, and almost constant ringing. I began to wear Eargasm plugs at every gig, and moved away from the drummer and the guitar amp. Thankfully, there's been a lot of healing and those symptoms have settled down a lot, though I'll get occasional blasts of a high-end whine when I'm doing nothing at all. AFAIK, meds: over the counter, holistic, and prescriptive do nothing at all. FWIW, the Eargasm plugs do take the fun out of feeling the music, but I can no longer perform 'naked!' Protect your ears! :crazy:
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Zukan » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:38 am

awjoe wrote:
Zukan wrote:I'd swap your white noise for my high frequency sinewaves, ringing and triangle sounds any day...

Mine's a sinewave/white noise combo which pulses, worse on one side of the head, no triangles though. I can't hear much above 12 K, but I don't know if the two are connected. The tinnitus is due to a loud explosive sound near my head when I was about 20. What brought yours about?

Not sure TBH Awjoe. It developed around 7 years ago and has steadily got worse. I have had a lot of health problems and undue stress over the last decade and that could have contributed, but might not have been the cause. Being in 2 wars and a noisy ass revolution didn't help either but I am not sure if tinnitus can be latent - ie be there but unannounced until much later?

I get so many varying degrees of diagnoses that it is often more confusing talking to a doctor than just trying to get through the day. With clearcut cases such as yours it isn't hard to source the cause but with many the causes can range from emotional distress to loud noise....It is a subject that is constantly evolving both in research being cinducted as to the causes and potential treatments.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Zukan » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:39 am

Warhen wrote:It so s*cks, doesn't it? :madas: I'm a lifelong musician but was fairly fortunate (and wise) to avoid hearing damage. I'm a singer/horn player, so I avoided the assault that a drummer and guitarist would endure. Even so, I took a couple of bad, high-decibel shots years back. I'm 64 now, and have had tinnitus for years on the lower end. After, however, playing for a year with a rock band and standing in front of a very hard-hitting drummer, I developed a new level of higher-end tinnitus on top of it! In fact, at some point, pre-COVID, the ears got really bad- sensitivity to noise in general, nerve pain, and almost constant ringing. I began to wear Eargasm plugs at every gig, and moved away from the drummer and the guitar amp. Thankfully, there's been a lot of healing and those symptoms have settled down a lot, though I'll get occasional blasts of a high-end whine when I'm doing nothing at all. AFAIK, meds: over the counter, holistic, and prescriptive do nothing at all. FWIW, the Eargasm plugs do take the fun out of feeling the music, but I can no longer perform 'naked!' Protect your ears! :crazy:

Good to hear you're experiencing some respite.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby hasser964 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:55 am

Had tinnitus since I was very young!

First appearance of it was at 14 and it's continued to stay until now: 23.

I use earplugs at gigs, and always make sure to keep my headphones low. Always taking breaks around the 1hr mark.

There's also temporary relief you can give yourself by covering your ears, with your hands and tapping the back of your skull 50 times.

Doing this relaxes the muscles that cause it. Not really sure of the science, but it f*** works!
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:31 pm

hasser964 wrote:There's also temporary relief you can give yourself by covering your ears, with your hands and tapping the back of your skull 50 times.

With both hands tied up covering your ears, with what do you tap the back of your head?
:wtf: :think: :lolno:
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby BJG145 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:56 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:
hasser964 wrote:There's also temporary relief you can give yourself by covering your ears, with your hands and tapping the back of your skull 50 times.

With both hands tied up covering your ears, with what do you tap the back of your head?
:wtf: :think: :lolno:

I was imagining tipping the chair back and banging your head on the wall. (It's something I often feel like doing.)
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Warhen » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:27 pm

It's not a 'muscular' condition- it's neurological, specifically, damaged cilia (micro-hairs) triggering sound. That's why it's not possible to alleviate it with current medical science.:cry:
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:34 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:
hasser964 wrote:There's also temporary relief you can give yourself by covering your ears, with your hands and tapping the back of your skull 50 times.

With both hands tied up covering your ears, with what do you tap the back of your head?
:wtf: :think: :lolno:
Palms over ears, fingers tap the back of the skull. Just tried it and you have to be very, very light-fingered!
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Folderol » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:38 pm

blinddrew wrote:
Hugh Robjohns wrote:
hasser964 wrote:There's also temporary relief you can give yourself by covering your ears, with your hands and tapping the back of your skull 50 times.

With both hands tied up covering your ears, with what do you tap the back of your head?
:wtf: :think: :lolno:
Palms over ears, fingers tap the back of the skull. Just tried it and you have to be very, very light-fingered!
Indeed! It's a quite weird experience :beamup:
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby ManFromGlass » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:52 pm

One could practice scale fingerings
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Folderol » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:25 am

Just came across this:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10 ... nging-ears

I don't know if it is of any interest, or if anyone knows where there's more information about the idea. Incidentally, I found the link via the slashdot site - always worth a look in from time to time.
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:18 pm

Just came across these open ear plugs which are claimed to help with Tinnitus... (this isn't my hand, by the way! ;) )

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https://www.flareaudio.com/blogs/press/upgrade-all-music-experiences-with-new-in-ear-anti-distortion-device

No idea if it's valid or pseudo-science... but interesting, all the same!
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Sam Spoons » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:15 pm

They've been popping up on my Facebook News Feed* for months now making that claim. Interested to know if they do have an effect as earplugs/IEMs could be expected to make tinnitus appear worse (at least you'd likely be more aware of it due to the reduced background). A quick and dirty test using my ACS Custom PRO17s, I don't hear any difference in my tinnitus but am much more aware of my breathing (sinus issues which is partly why I haven't really used them or IEMs since I retired from live sound work) which distracts from the tinnitus.

* Yes, I know :blush:
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Re: Tinnitus

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:37 pm

These appear not to be earplugs -- they are hollow. The idea seems to be to change the resonant frequency and/or the strength of resonance of the ear canal.
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