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When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Hjlphilp » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:32 pm

Anybody ever have a mix that just wouldn't lock in? You did all your best tricks and it just still didn't sound like what you imagined... just asking

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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Alba » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:21 pm

Yep. I learned to just leave those ones alone. If it requires force then it will always sound forced... IMVHO.
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby The Elf » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:35 pm

There's no such thing as unmix-able. All that needs to be done is to find the source of the problem and deal with it. If there truly was a mix that couldn't be mixed then I think I'd have found it by now.

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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby CS70 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:13 pm

Hjlphilp wrote:Anybody ever have a mix that just wouldn't lock in? You did all your best tricks and it just still didn't sound like what you imagined... just asking

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What the Elf says. At worst, you re-start from scratch and you do only the simple, most obvious things and fit in a track at a time.
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby blinddrew » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:04 pm

The Elf wrote:There's always a way forward, even if sometimes it has more to do with diplomacy than anything technical...
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Jack Ruston » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:41 am

It’s usually not the mix. It’s usually that the writing or production is not working on some level. The mix then gets tied up. It’s like making a meal. If any of the handful of main ingredients are of average quality, or missing, it doesn’t matter how good a cook you are. But conversely if they’re all of the finest quality you can often get away with small errors and still get a superb result, even if not quite what Marcus Wareing etc could do.

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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Hjlphilp » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:26 am

Jack Ruston wrote:It’s usually not the mix. It’s usually that the writing or production is not working on some level. The mix then gets tied up. It’s like making a meal. If any of the handful of main ingredients are of average quality, or missing, it doesn’t matter how good a cook you are. But conversely if they’re all of the finest quality you can often get away with small errors and still get a superb result, even if not quite what Marcus Wareing etc could do.

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And its even harder when it's your own music. That's why I have trusted friends that mix for local artists and are also briefed on the state of the art.

I find it helps to mentally think, "Recalibrate", mainly because when you hear something over and over you get used to it and now you can't hear the details... you're absolutely right, if I was a doper producer my mixes would be way easier LOL
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby joeyondakeys » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:57 am

Oh ya. Sometimes I just cannot achieve my initial intention for a song, despite knowing exactly what I want to accomplish. I've had panic attacks editing a 10 second segment of a track over and over and over (using trial and error, critical thinking, etc).

The concept of settling really bothers me and is completely at odds with my personality. But in order to actually get things done in a reasonable amount of time - and not become overwhelmed with frustration - I've had to learn the art of compromise.

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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Zukan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:44 am

Let us have a listen to this twitchy mix.
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Hjlphilp » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:55 pm

https://youtu.be/q5Mom5wWzmI

Not even close to what it could be... how sad
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby blinddrew » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:54 am

You may not be happy with the mix but that's still a great song. :clap:
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Hi Leland!

I agree with Drew - this is an inspiring track, and a good video, but I can hear how the beats don't somehow 'gel' with the rest of the arrangement, which nevertheless does have some fascinating elements. Some buss compression might help to glue it together more, possibly with some side-chaining.

However, I suspect Zukan (who posted above) could well be able to offer the perfect advice, as he's a real expert on both low end and vocals.

Are you still around Eddie?

In the meantime, Eddie has loads of tutorials available - here are some free ones that you may find useful: www.samplecraze.com/free-tutorials/


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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Zukan » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:39 pm

I iz here Myth, I iz here.

The track is well cool. Just needs a better mix as it sounds very muffled with poor separation, low end and width.
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Hjlphilp » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:14 pm

Issue with mixing 2-tracks and a vocal is that it's hard to get that separation you're looking for... if you heard what I had to start with yall would be like "good job zeesh"
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:16 am

Not a genre I'm really into - but sounds good.

With the above in mind !!
To me first problem to be sorted is the Kick - to me it's flappin about like a loony?
I'd like to here it sounding - smaller, more precise and dry as a the sahara

...Then I'd make the bassline louder

Probably, should keep my mouth closed so I can't get my foot in it!

Best of luck!
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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

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Re: When a mix is stubborn...

Postby Hjlphilp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

Keep in mind fellas... this was before I LEARNED my apollo twin XD

and where's the link bro?
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