You are here

Replacement for classic reverb

For everything after the recording stage: hardware/software and how you use it.

Replacement for classic reverb

Postby Demious » Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:37 pm

I keep having issues with 32-bit plugins, as in artifacts and slight crackle, or they dont even work at all, when I ported them over with JBridge. Most plugins I dont mind very much, but after trying several reverb plugins, freeware and payware, I still need a replacement of the Kjaerhus Classic Reverb. A simple, smooth and flexible verb with a clear and user-friendly interface. I tried several reverbs but it's just not what I'm looking for. Let me give a couple of examples from my experience with reasonably familliar plugins. The RVerb is nice, but there's no mono version and I need it to recreate a little resonating of snare and tom kettles, so no stereo, it gets too big, too fast and sounds too far out from the position of the instrument itself. Trueverb has a locked pre-delay, which is really annoying for this job and the H-Reverb is one of the most user-unfriendly, counter-intuitive plugins I've ever seen (it might be me, I'm autistic, so I hear I think 'different'... but the H-Reverb just doesnt work for me, I really hate that plugin)
The AR Plates has a very nice sound, but the reverb time steps are quite large, the first two steps of this verb would be plenty for me if that would be the complete range.

The Classic Verb has such a clear interface and moving the knobs immediately sound clear and you know where you need to go, it's smooth, it can be subtle and all that is what I cant find so far.

Anyone who can advise me on some plugins to try?
Demious
Poster
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:07 pm
Cheers!
Maarten

System: i7-8700k @ 5GHz, 8GB @ 2400MHz, Win10/x64, Mixbus v4, MOTU 828mkII, Adams T7V

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby desmond » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:44 pm

Maybe try the Valhalla stuff?

Excellent sounding, clear interfaces, great prices.

They do Valhalla Room, Valhalla Plate, and Valhalla Vintage Verb, depending on your reverb tastes. Plate is the only one with a Mono version though, but it's easy enough to reduce the width of a stereo signal anyway....

https://valhalladsp.com
User avatar
desmond
Jedi Poster
Posts: 8168
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:00 am

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby blinddrew » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:41 pm

Demious wrote: Trueverb has a locked pre-delay, which is really annoying for this job
Slightly confused by this comment? Although the parameters for each preset start in a linked mode you can 'unlink' them to adjust things separately. Or I may be misunderstanding your point. :)
Personally I really like Sound Toys new 'Little Plate', but it isn't a universal solution.
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 5078
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am
Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby desmond » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:43 pm

blinddrew wrote:Personally I really like Sound Toys new 'Little Plate', but it isn't a universal solution.

I love that too, but agree it's not for everything...
User avatar
desmond
Jedi Poster
Posts: 8168
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:00 am

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby molecular » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:55 pm

+1 for Valhalla if you haven't tried. Excellent ambiences and realistic rooms and plenty mad s**t too!
User avatar
molecular
Frequent Poster
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:00 am
Location: The turn off where the main road goes over the river. If you're at the post box you've gone too far.
Anto mo Ninja, Watashi mo Ninja http://www.hectormacinnes.com

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby molecular » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:10 pm

desmond wrote:
blinddrew wrote:Personally I really like Sound Toys new 'Little Plate', but it isn't a universal solution.

I love that too, but agree it's not for everything...

oh cool. Always great to look at trying out a new plugin and then realise I already own it!
User avatar
molecular
Frequent Poster
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:00 am
Location: The turn off where the main road goes over the river. If you're at the post box you've gone too far.
Anto mo Ninja, Watashi mo Ninja http://www.hectormacinnes.com

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby Demious » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:48 pm

Thanks everyone, I'm going to try those and see what it is.

@Blinddrew I'm not sure, but the pre-delay box is always greyed out... Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I'm just working with the demo and I'm not very familiar with it yet. I'll have another look.
Demious
Poster
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:07 pm
Cheers!
Maarten

System: i7-8700k @ 5GHz, 8GB @ 2400MHz, Win10/x64, Mixbus v4, MOTU 828mkII, Adams T7V

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby blinddrew » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:40 pm

I'll have a shufti tomorrow and remind myself of the buttons.
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 5078
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am
Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby DC-Choppah » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:14 pm

I use TrueVerb and predelay can be set in two ways. The natural way leaves the pre-delay box greyed-out. The pre-dealy will be calculated based on your choice of room size and distance.

If you uncheck the little blue arrow that links pre-delay to your room size, then pre-delay is changeable. But this means it won't be 'true' anymore since it wont be consistent with the room.

Instead of adjusting pre-delay directly, just change the room size and dimensions and distance and let it calculate the pre-delay for you. That is how they intended it to be used it appears. Great for natural sounding places. It is never too strong and never has that artificial sizzle. You can move something in and out, forward and back with one control (distance). Or make the room get bigger. That is what makes TrueVerb so good. It keeps all the parameters consistent with a physical place.
User avatar
DC-Choppah
Frequent Poster
Posts: 1005
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:00 am
Location: MD, USA

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby MonsterPianoPlayer » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:00 am

Anyone who can advise me on some plugins to try?

Sure can. With a little bit of searching I get (in alphabetical order):

Acon Digital Verberate
Acustica Ebony
Acustica Nebula
Audio Ease Altiverb
Breverb 2
Exponential Audio Nimbus
Exponential Audio PhoenixVerb Stereo Reverb
Exponential R2 Stereo Reverb
Eventide Room
Fabfilter Pro-R
Flux Ircam Verb V3
Lexicon PCM Native Reverb Bundle
LiquidSonics Reverberate 2
LiquidSonics Seventh Heaven Pro
Relab LX480 Complete
Relab VSR S24
Sir 2
TC 6000
TC VSS3
Universal Audio AKG BX 20 Spring Reverb
Universal Audio EMT 140 Classic Plate Reverberator
ValhallaDSP VintageVerb
ValhallaDSP ValhallaRoom
Virsyn Reflect
Waves Abbey Road Plates
Waves IR1
Waves TrueVerb
Zynaptiq Adaptiverb

Bricasti M7 Impulses
Eventide H3000 Impulses

ummm...that should be enough for now!

Monster Piano Player
MonsterPianoPlayer
New here
Posts: 8
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:50 am

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby blinddrew » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:48 am

DC-Choppah wrote:If you uncheck the little blue arrow that links pre-delay to your room size, then pre-delay is changeable. But this means it won't be 'true' anymore since it wont be consistent with the room.
I thought it was an arrow but couldn't quite remember.
User avatar
blinddrew
Jedi Poster
Posts: 5078
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am
Location: York
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby Darren Lynch » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:33 pm

Make sure you try out Valhalla's Vintageverb. Very clear GUI, great sound.
Darren Lynch
Regular
Posts: 479
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:00 am

Re: Replacement for classic reverb

Postby twotoedsloth » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:46 pm

One excellent reverb not on the list is the Sonnox Oxford Reverb.
twotoedsloth
Frequent Poster
Posts: 812
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:00 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users