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Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:41 pm
by Dr Huge Longjohns
Watched this vid by our very own esteemed Zukan. This technique of using three verbs all at once on eg a single vocal is not something I've ever tried but will be giving it a go asap. Anybody else do this as a matter of course?

https://www.samplecraze.com/tutorials/wrapping-reverbs/

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:08 pm
by Martin Walker
The Elf certainly does, as he's discussed in a previous thread here on the forums.

(I'll post a link if I can find it again)


Martin

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:36 pm
by Folderol
I do occasionally.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:36 pm
by Martin Walker
Here you go, pointing to the first post on this topic from The Elf:

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 90#p583657


Martin

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:49 pm
by forumuser840717
I often use two, three or even more reverbs but it depends what it is that I'm mixing.

On simple/purist things it might be no digital trickery at all or just a convolution or very clean algorithmic reverb over the mix but on bigger, more complex things with lots of layers or where some depth has to be faked in to the mix, it could involve two, three, or more reverbs, and possibly a mixture of algorithmic and convolution reverbs - or even old school acoustic reverb chanbers or plates. The main thing for me is to make sure that, if they're not just there to produce pure "effect(s)" on a specific sound, say a snare or vocal, they add up to produce a convincingly real soundstage rather than just an aurally confusing/tiring mess.

I tend to find that for bedding things into mixes, algorithmic reverbs work best whereas convolutions can be hard to blend in, tending to remain as separate, pasted-on entities but for adding reverb to a finished mix, particularly a very pure/clear/simple mix, something convolutiony is often better. For stand out effect work it could be either. Everyone is different, though, and whatever works is good.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:50 pm
by Dr Huge Longjohns
No, sorry, obviously didn't make myself clear. I'm talking about using 3 verbs on a single source eg the lead vocal. See the Zukan video I linked to, where on the lead vocal, he uses a short plate with no predelay, then a hall with a short predelay, followed by a smaller hall with a long predelay. So all 3 are on the voice in series, blended together to give a very pleasing result.

So I'm not talking about using a selection of different verbs across the mix which, I guess, most of us do as a matter of course almost.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:03 pm
by Folderol
Yep. That's what I thought you meant, and as I said, I do occasionally.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:08 pm
by Dr Huge Longjohns
How do you use them, what kinds of reverb do you use and on what sources? And have you or any member of your family ever been a member of the communist party?

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:23 pm
by Martin Walker
OK Dr Huge - here's the same thread a little further on where multiple reverbs on one source ARE specifically mentioned ;)

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 90#p583869


Martin

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:14 pm
by Dr Huge Longjohns
Ah yes, that's the video I referenced too. Seems to be quite a rare thing to do?

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:29 pm
by Sam Inglis
I will often have multiple reverbs set up in a mix and will send some sources to more than one of them. I'll also put a delay in series with a reverb. Don't think I have ever used two or three reverbs in series, though.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:42 pm
by Dr Huge Longjohns
Interestingly, in Logic, some of the preset instrument settings come with two reverbs patched in, often a small ambience plus a hall, say.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:42 pm
by The Elf
As Martin says, I do use multiple reverbs as a matter of course. On the latest mix, for instance I'm adding a bit of the snare's plate to toms, and then sending the toms to a chamber to create more LF 'bloom'. Just one example...

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:11 pm
by Guest
I print effects to the track so I will add one reverb and then change the settings slightly and print it again. I rarely use three though.

Re: Who else uses layered reverbs ie more than one verb on a single sound?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:56 pm
by Soundpact
I usually use two or three types of layered reverbs and automate them: a short type in verses, medium in bridges and large in choruses and solos. Not on all instruments of course, it depends on the track, style, etc.