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Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Baldo » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:12 pm

I am looking for someone who can master files for me.

I do my production in Logic Pro X so someone who can help me to either help me to optimize the files in Logic Pro X and then take the bounced files for mastering or someone who can take the whole Logic Pro X file make the necessary adjustments and then do the mastering.

Also, is it possible to master the files for specific equipment? So if I provide the kind of equipment the file is going to be used on, can the files be optimized for that equipment, meaning that it will sound great on that equipment but then might not sound so good one other equipment.

Many thanks.

I know this seems like an odd request but I do have a reason behind my request,
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby desmond » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:25 pm

The DAW doesn't matter - you send the final mix audio file to be mastered, and the ME will use whatever gear he has to process that audio file.

If you have specific requirements you'd like the ME to follow, just let them know beforehand so they know what you want...
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Jack Ruston » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:59 am

You're looking for a mixer who can take your logic session, then a mastering engineer if needs be. There are lots of mixers who will do that.
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Baldo » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:53 am

I know that the DAW does not really matter, I just want to make the MEs job as easy as possible. So if he /she can make adjustments in the initial mix rather than having to crrect things at the mixing stage all the better.

That way I get the best of both worlds. I get a great initial mix and then made even better with the final mixing process.

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Ok so all MEs can do what I require, where do I find one? I am asking for one to step up here...
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Wonks » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:06 am

If you want someone to finish the mixing for you, rather then just master a stereo mix, then unless you've only used Logic's plug-ins, you'll need someone who has all the same plug-ins you've used, which will be unlikely. They may be able to substitute their own plug-ins if you're happy with that, but if you've used some fairly specialised plugs only made by one company, then you may have to get them to mix in your home studio, which may not be optimal.

Otherwise you'll have to hand your Mac over to them to mix on - which might not be convenient. This means that you'll need to use someone fairly local to you, rather than simply send off the files via the web.

So before you even start to think of getting it mixed elsewhere, I'd list out all the plugs and virtual instruments you're using to help you find the most compatible mix engineer.
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby desmond » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:07 am

Baldo wrote:I know that the DAW does not really matter, I just want to make the MEs job as easy as possible. So if he /she can make adjustments in the initial mix rather than having to correct things at the mixing stage all the better.

That's not their job, though. Changing your mix is *not* what an ME does.
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:25 am

You'd think that... but some now do, precisely because so many artists no longer seem to trust themselves to declare a mix finished, and don't actually appreciate what the mastering role is (was).

Originally, mastering was about taking a well-crafted mix and optimising it for mass reproduction on vinyl, cassette or whatever release format was involved. Where 'optimising' meant controlling the peak dynamics if necessary, controlling the side-signal amplitude at LF, optimising the spectral balance maybe, and then balancing the track lengths and the track gaps for the two sides of a record or tape...

Today, so many people seem to think mastering is about fixing their mix... so they're passing on the responsibility... and in this commercial world many mastering engineers have, quite naturally, responded and now offer that option.

But from what I've seen, most seem to work from stems rather than the whole source mix project -- and for all the very practical reasons that others have mentioned above in terms of DAW platforms, plugins etc etc.

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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby The Elf » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:44 am

Some of the troubles are simply about the language. There's a lot of confusion out there about what is 'mixing' and what is 'mastering'. Many people say 'mastering' when they mean 'mixing'.

I find myself having to pick people up on terminology quite often. I'm sure they think I'm just being arsey, but unless we're talking about the same things it can lead to all kinds of trouble.
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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:19 pm

The Elf wrote:I find myself having to pick people up on terminology quite often. I'm sure they think I'm just being arsey, but unless we're talking about the same things it can lead to all kinds of trouble.

Yep. Quite right. Understanding and using the correct terminology really is important to effective communication!

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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby Wonks » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:22 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:
The Elf wrote:I find myself having to pick people up on terminology quite often. I'm sure they think I'm just being arsey, but unless we're talking about the same things it can lead to all kinds of trouble.

Yep. Quite right. Understanding and using the correct terminology really is important to effective communication!

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Re: Looking for a Mastering Engineer who is happy to work with Logic Pro X

Postby CS70 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:46 pm

Baldo wrote:I know that the DAW does not really matter, I just want to make the MEs job as easy as possible. So if he /she can make adjustments in the initial mix rather than having to crrect things at the mixing stage all the better.

That way I get the best of both worlds. I get a great initial mix and then made even better with the final mixing process.

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No mastering engineer will do that - it's too time consuming. Mastering is a set of well-defined steps that one goes thru when listening to a finished mix, which usually take from 10 mins to an hour or so.

Also keep in mind a mastering engineer will assume the mix you give him/her is exactly as you want it. He/she might give you feedback in case he find some mix choices extremely odd (or, if you provide references, very very different from the references) but more often than not, that won't happen. That's because by definition your music is yours so there's no inherent right or wrong (check the wonderful "The Shaggs" thread :D)

What you seem to be thinking of is that you have a "rough mix" and you want a pro mixing engineer to bring it to the next level. Only after that it's gonna be mastered.

In that you're correct that being able to load up the entire session directly may be good, but many mixing engineers will nevertheless simply listen to what you give as a rough mix and use it as a sonic base to get a sense of what sound you want, not concretely as a working starting point. Typically for example I look at the vocal timbre and its reverb, the balance between snare and vocals, the balance between drums and guitars, the sound of the bass line, if the rough mix is kick-driven or bass-driven and so forth, stuff that contributes to the final sound but in a way that the original mixer isn't aware of (he can say "I love it like this" but without being aware exactly why).
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