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Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:02 pm
by CS70
Zukan wrote:Definitely a parallel kinda dude I be. Basses, vocals, drums and sometimes the whole mix.

I have this little trick whereby I bandpass the mix into three sections with each section being run off an auxiliary. I then treat the auxes to get the final balance and colour nailed. Works a treat and a really good way to master problematic mixes.

Woah, never thought of that! Great idea to try!

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:27 pm
by The Elf
Somewhere I have a Cubase template that uses clever polarity trickery to negate the phase problems associated with creating a three-band filter split. If anyone is VERY interested I'll try to fish it out, but I will admit I can't recall how I came up with it - it works though!

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:47 am
by Hugh Robjohns
Yes please! :thumbup:

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:38 pm
by The Elf
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Yes please! :thumbup:
Bluff called! :lol:

Here goes:
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Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:41 pm
by The Elf
It's a few years since I created this, so I'm struggling to recall the details.

Essentially what it does is split the source into low, mid and high bands by use of filters and uses polarity inversion to remove crossover artefacts. It was based on a two-way mult someone showed me, but I gnawed at it until I came up with a three-way technique.

The 'original inversion' channel is simply to prove that no artefacts remain. When un-muted with all faders at unity the output shou;d be null - and it is!

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:56 pm
by The Elf
Have I successfully scared everyone into stupefaction?! :lol:

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:24 pm
by blinddrew
We're cogitating...

Or waiting until we're at a screen where we can zoom in enough on the screen shots to see what's actually going on! :)

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:15 pm
by The Elf
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Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:20 pm
by Wonks
As clear as Brexit so far.

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:29 pm
by Wonks
Possibly because you've posted two pictures of a low pass filter, when you wanted one low pass, one band pass and one high-pass filter.

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:37 pm
by Wonks
And without being able to see where the outputs of the channels are being sent to (I can see where aux sends are going) it's impossible to work out the full routing path.

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:37 pm
by The Elf
Wonks wrote:Possibly because you've posted two pictures of a low pass filter, when you wanted one low pass, one band pass and one high-pass filter.
Nope - it's correct as shown. It's all about polarity and routing. Take another look!

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:38 pm
by The Elf
Wonks wrote:And without being able to see where the outputs of the channels are being sent to (I can see where aux sends are going) it's impossible to work out the full routing path.
It's all there - top of the channels.

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by Wonks
No, not getting it. And the second photo shows the audio has already come from a high pass filter, so it is effectively a band-pass filter for the mids.

I know you know what you're doing, but it's not as easy to let us know what you are doing.

Re: Giving vocals a consistent volume through the mix

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by Wonks
The Elf wrote:
Wonks wrote:And without being able to see where the outputs of the channels are being sent to (I can see where aux sends are going) it's impossible to work out the full routing path.
It's all there - top of the channels.

:thumbup: missed that - all rather small.