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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby James Perrett » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:58 pm

Get another drummer! The drums are a bit monotonous in the verse where you could do with a little (just a little mind you) punctuation between lines. In the chorus they go off into a world of their own and the song loses its flow. I can kind of see what the drums are trying to do in the chorus but they are a long way from achieving it.

As has been mentioned - the bass is all low end and will get lost on many playback systems - could it be doubled with a more middly sound?

And the vocals are slightly high but it sounds like they need to be the focus so don't bring them down much.

I really like much about the song though - reminds me a bit of The Bible and Boo Hewardine's early solo stuff.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:12 pm

Sadly the drummer comes included the package, it's a long way from my strongest suit. ;)
The verse is some loops from power drummer, the chorus is sadly all my own work. I shall have a further think, less will probably be more...
Vocal-wise i'm certain i did some work to get them sitting better after the feedback last time, but i've obviously buggered around with things since.
Might park it for now as my ears are a bit rusty - most of my free time is going on smashing up the concrete and hardcore in the garden.

Think that synth might be muddying things up a bit as well.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby James Perrett » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:51 pm

blinddrew wrote:Sadly the drummer comes included the package, it's a long way from my strongest suit. ;)
The verse is some loops from power drummer, the chorus is sadly all my own work. I shall have a further think, less will probably be more...

If I you are trying to do what I think you are trying to do then you need someone pretty skilled to carry it off. It would be well worth stripping it back and going with something straighter for now unless you happen to know a skilled drummer/percussionist.

blinddrew wrote:Vocal-wise i'm certain i did some work to get them sitting better after the feedback last time, but i've obviously buggered around with things since.

They're not bad and, if you'd sent me something like that to master, I probably would assume that it is a vocally driven song and work accordingly. Having had a second listen, I'd say that riding the vocal level would be a good idea - taking it down at the start and pushing it up later as the vocals sit better in this mix where things get busy.

blinddrew wrote:Think that synth might be muddying things up a bit as well.

I thought that the synths and melodic instruments worked pretty well.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:28 am

Thanks again James, will take it on board and cogitate.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:34 pm

Ok, that's a bit weird. I swear I remember doing a load of vocal fader riding but looking at the track now it's plainly not there. Which makes me think I've managed to pick up an older version somewhere. So I wonder what else I've not done that I thought I had.
Shoddy version control. :(

Either that or I've imagined the whole thing...
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby John Willett » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:25 pm

blinddrew wrote:Either that or I've imagined the whole thing...

Probably :lol:
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:59 pm

Quite a reasonable chance of that! If anyone sees the plot anywhere please could they mail it back to me... ;)
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby Dave B » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:22 pm

I'm glad someone else brought up the drums. I was starting to think that it was just me.

Drew - bung me over a version without drums and I'll happily have a stab at creating an alternate set.... :)
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:31 pm

Cheers Dave, very much appreciated. Still digging out the garden at the moment but I'll try and get a drumless copy across to you this weekend.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby Wonks » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:40 pm

blinddrew wrote: Still digging out the garden at the moment

Either it's a lot colder up there than down here, or you are completely mad! I hardly have enough energy to type!
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:19 pm

It's plenty warm up here but I have a deadline!
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby Wonks » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:46 am

Completely mad, as I thought.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:34 pm

Hour and a half to travel 25 mins on a train with no working air-conditioning, managed about 10 minutes before realising I was going dizzy and at serious risk of heatstroke. Going to have to wait until the weekend but I'm getting a little nervous about timescales now!
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:25 pm

blinddrew wrote:Hour and a half to travel 25 mins on a Tardis

FTFY ;)
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby blinddrew » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:37 pm

Oops! :oops:
Miles not minutes.
My bad.
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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:07 pm

:D :D :D It raised a smile here so all good :thumbup:
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