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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby The Elf » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:00 pm

I'd say that Reaper is perfectly capable, and the best value for money DAW of the lot. I find it a bit fiddly, but I can live with it for the limited functions I use.

Cubase, in its fullest form, is mature, slick and extremely powerful. The integrated editors, doubling/aligning and VariAudio are simply stunning (the latest versions integrate with Melodyne, but I don't feel the need for that, so how good it is I can't say). But you pay a fair bit of money for these slick features.

I find Reaper ideal as a travelling companion, meaning that my Cubase dongle can remain back in the studio.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby blinddrew » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:02 pm

Are you going to be doing a lot of midi-based work? Cubase tends to be pretty highly regarded in that area.
Another question might be 'which version of Cubase?'
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby JMT » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:22 pm

Becouse i'm very new to this world I find it difficult to know the different terms, sorry.
I don't have allot of instruments that I can plug into the computer or record myself playing. That's why i want a DAW with instruments in the software itself (don't know if it's called vst?? hmm). Don't know what this type of producing is called and if reaper is capable of this? Just watched a lot of tutorials on reaper and got the impression of it being a DAW that's good for working with audio files of you actually playing. Hope this makes sense. :D
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby blinddrew » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:36 pm

Reaper doesn't come with any VSTi's as standard (other than a very basic synth) but there are lots of cheap and free ones available. (the i is the important bit, it stands for instrument)
Not sure what Cubase comes with, I think it depends which version you're going for.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby fatbenelton » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:49 pm

If you like FL studio why not stick with that. Also Magix Acid may be worth a look if you are into loops etc (but still has decent enough midi and audio) - pc only though.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby ef37a » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:26 pm

Hardly ever gets a mention but DO download the 30 day trial of Samplitude ProX3 and the 3G of samples and instruments that comes with it.

Cubase is great for MIDI work but can be a bit "twitchy", FL is fine for cut and shunt tune building but as you found a bit limited for linear recording.

Pro X 4 is expensive of course but it is coming to that time of the year when they have a monster sale! The other MAGIX products are also worth a look.

Yes, the new NI KA6 looks very good but they have dropped the Cubase freebie. Bit of a shame IMHO.

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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby Zukan » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:04 am

I use Reaper, Cubase and Harrison Mixbus.

If you come from the old school method of using 'tool sets' by right clicking you will be disappointed with Reaper. Reaper tends to lean towards key command navigation and processing. I prefer Cubase's tool sets as they can be accessed anywhere and easily. Harrison sounds lovely and is a doddle to use but the fact that the strips cannot be resized made it redundant for me. Using 1920 x 1080 as my screen resolution I am unable to see the channel strip's legending.

Cubase ticks all the boxes for me but when I need to work on my own music I tend to use Reaper as it is not bloatware and is streamlined. If I need to run Acoustica Audio plugins I always use Reaper as it can handle multiple instances of AA plugs whereas Cubase grinds to a halt using just one instance of AA plugs.

Download the trials and try them out for yourself. Test them in all scenarios to make sure it suits you.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby MOF » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:50 am

I can’t see which computer you’re using, if you’ve got a Mac then try the free Garage band or buy Logic for more plugins and versatility.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby John Egan » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:44 pm

Personally, I have never regretted choosing Reason as my DAW.
It's not mainstream here, but it has a very good set of free instruments and is easy and intuitive to use. Give it a trial and see what you think.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby CS70 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:58 pm

:-D


So in the end the answer is: choose any that you want. You'll be okay.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:29 pm

blinddrew wrote:Reaper doesn't come with any VSTi's as standard (other than a very basic synth) but there are lots of cheap and free ones available. (the i is the important bit, it stands for instrument)
Not sure what Cubase comes with, I think it depends which version you're going for.

I switched to Reaper because over the years I've created a lot of my own 'signature' sounds for various softsynths, so I actually prefer to choose my own VSTi's to continue that approach, rather than rely on the bundled ones that come with Cubase. The other wonderulf factor is that Reaper has such tightly written code, along with no instrumental sample collections, that its Windows 64-bit download size is a miniscule 11MB each time you get a free update, compared to the many gigabytes that Cubase can occupy.


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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby Chromeman » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:34 pm

ef37a wrote:Hardly ever gets a mention but DO download the 30 day trial of Samplitude ProX3 and the 3G of samples and instruments that comes with it.

Mmm.....I don't think Samplitude is at all intuitive as a first DAW and I've had a copy since Version 9. The manual isn't a great help and most users rely on either the forum or Kraznet's tutorials on Youtube. Sure it's got tons of functions and audio editing is a breeze but things like an 'Arrange' function which users have been asking for for years are still missing. YMMV.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby Mike Stranks » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:03 pm

And just to throw another one into the mix (see what I did there?):

https://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/

Currently on special offer...

I've never seriously used anything else and it suits me fine. Also has lots of supplied goodies of various descriptions... Might be just what you need...
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby Arpangel » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:10 pm

JMT wrote:Thank you guys for all of your helpfull answers.
I can understand that the majority is recommending reaper as a great DAW. So, I think that’s where I will start. I like sampling and making beats in the software instead of recording me playing. Hopefully reaper can do that hmm? Anyone who would recommend any specific website for downloading the instruments + plugins?
Sorry for my lack of knowledge on the subject, thanks.

It's Reaper, and honestly, if I can use it anyone can! That's no insult you though!
And it's got all sorts of cool plug-ins, completely free.
I've been using Reaper for over ten years, I bought a license, Just out of appreciation, it's just a no brainer.
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Re: Help at choosing first DAW

Postby ef37a » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:07 pm

Chromeman wrote:
ef37a wrote:Hardly ever gets a mention but DO download the 30 day trial of Samplitude ProX3 and the 3G of samples and instruments that comes with it.

Mmm.....I don't think Samplitude is at all intuitive as a first DAW and I've had a copy since Version 9. The manual isn't a great help and most users rely on either the forum or Kraznet's tutorials on Youtube. Sure it's got tons of functions and audio editing is a breeze but things like an 'Arrange' function which users have been asking for for years are still missing. YMMV.

I don't think ANY DAW is intuitive and I have tried most of the PC happy ones except PT. Son and I started off with a 10quid copy of MAGIX Recording Studio Gen 6 from WH Smiths! We slowly got to grips and then Computer Music "gave away" Samplitude SE8. Great! Much like MRsG6 but much, much better and would run 24 bits.
MIDI was not so hot so dad stumped up for Cubase Ess6 but our go-to sound recording DAW was always Sam 8. Still is for me because I know it so well and the meter goes down to -90dBfs. I have Sam proX 3 as does son in France but I rarely fire it up since I have no music to make these days.

It is ALL a huge learning curve OP my friend.

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