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Entre dos aguas - MOOZEECK

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:35 pm
by Moozeeck

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:29 am
by ore_terra
Well... it’s clear that you just cannot replicate flamenco guitar right hand techniques with a keyboard :lol:

Good playing skills, though :thumbup:

The choice of sounds, I found the classic guitar a bit unpleasant. The flute and piano just adequate for the part.

In any case, I have always the same feeling when I hear somebody doing entre dos aguas (or mostly any other improvised guitar part): it was an impro! don't do it note by note like Paco de Lucía (he himself wouldn't do it, actually :lol: )

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:27 pm
by Moozeeck
It wasn't intended to be exact replica or style of Paco, mine is better. :headbang:

I used free guitar VST Ample Guitar Lite, it was the best sound that I could get out of it by using Amplification and EQ effects, believe me it can't be better. Better VST classical guitar costs a lot.

Actually, first part of the song (flute) in the original wasn't improvised by Paco a lot, very little. It follows basic melody most of the time.
Second part I just did it as an ending, I wasn't planning to do it except first part.

Song was more intended to be in a relaxing style, not showing off Paco's virtuosity, which was unbelievable.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:43 pm
by Sam Spoons
I'm very impressed by the OP's humility

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:49 pm
by Moozeeck
Sam Spoons wrote:I'm very impressed by the OP's humility

It's temporarily.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:16 pm
by MOF
Out of curiosity, what headphones did you end up buying and did they solve your ‘spatial’ problem? Re- https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 15&t=70095

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:34 pm
by Moozeeck
MOF wrote:Out of curiosity, what headphones did you end up buying and did they solve your ‘spatial’ problem? Re- https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 15&t=70095

I bought Hama HK-260 https://www.whathifi.com/hama/56260/overview for 9$.

They are very good, very nice sound and they are good for mixing.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:38 pm
by ore_terra
Moozeeck wrote:Actually, first part of the song (flute) in the original wasn't improvised by Paco a lot, very little. It follows basic melody most of the time.
Second part I just did it as an ending, I wasn't planning to do it except first part..

https://youtu.be/9NcYzIEVjKE
Sorry no English subtitles.

Here “young” Paco explains how he gathered a few musicians to finish a record with an impro as he had no more tracks and the label was pushing. Then “old” Paco says it had been the 1st time that was done in flamenco: improvise a whole song like it was done in jazz, and also that it was crucial for his career.

In any case, I didnt mean you were trying to show off mate! Just thoughts that come to my mind when I see people executing improvisations note by note.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:07 pm
by Moozeeck
ore_terra wrote:
Moozeeck wrote:Actually, first part of the song (flute) in the original wasn't improvised by Paco a lot, very little. It follows basic melody most of the time.
Second part I just did it as an ending, I wasn't planning to do it except first part..

https://youtu.be/9NcYzIEVjKE
Sorry no English subtitles.

Here “young” Paco explains how he gathered a few musicians to finish a record with an impro as he had no more tracks and the label was pushing. Then “old” Paco says it had been the 1st time that was done in flamenco: improvise a whole song like it was done in jazz, and also that it was crucial for his career.

In any case, I didnt mean you were trying to show off mate! Just thoughts that come to my mind when I see people executing improvisations note by note.

Fine, then you record it the way you want to, I don't care.