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Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:31 pm
by Pevec
Hi all,

I made a looped track for my mobile project, and it sounds okay on monitors and headphones, but when I crank phone speakers to the maximum, I can hear crackling of the rhodes piano.
I can't seem to find a way to fix this.

Heres the track: https://app.box.com/file/684917353478
Here's how it sounds on phone speakers: https://app.box.com/file/684907286282
You can hear especially on the first two chords.

I tried on other phones, but same problem.
And here's the EQ for rhodes: https://i.imgur.com/JlSwpS1.png

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:31 pm
by Sam Inglis
Hi, and welcome to the forum!

I can't access those box.com files as it asks me to log in.

However, it's not uncommon for playback to be distorted on phones. Would you say it's more distorted on this track than with reference tracks?

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:18 pm
by Pevec
Hi, here are the new links.

My mix: https://vocaroo.com/8prYCs6H5EX

How it sounds on my phone speaker: https://vocaroo.com/9vLEqvWLDub

And here is some song with rhodes piano in it, but it doesnt distort on phone: https://vocaroo.com/nDcs3unl1WB

I guess the problem is with low mids, but if I remove them completely, I'll lose that rhodes sound. Not sure how they (mix above) fixed that problem.

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:28 pm
by James Perrett
Solo piano is very good at highlighting distortion as there's nothing else going on to cover up the distortion. When you have it as part of the mix the distortion will be disguised by other elements in the mix that occupy the same frequency range as the distortion.

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:11 pm
by blinddrew
Also worth trying a bit of compression in there to bring up the overall loudness and take the tops off the peaks.

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:21 pm
by Pevec
James Perrett wrote:Solo piano is very good at highlighting distortion as there's nothing else going on to cover up the distortion. When you have it as part of the mix the distortion will be disguised by other elements in the mix that occupy the same frequency range as the distortion.

Unfortunately, same thing is happening in the whole mix as well.
The only workaround I have found is to cut lows and low mids from rhodes VST.

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:02 pm
by CS70
Pevec wrote:
James Perrett wrote:Solo piano is very good at highlighting distortion as there's nothing else going on to cover up the distortion. When you have it as part of the mix the distortion will be disguised by other elements in the mix that occupy the same frequency range as the distortion.

Unfortunately, same thing is happening in the whole mix as well.
The only workaround I have found is to cut lows and low mids from rhodes VST.

I guess you probably should, then? :D

Sounds like a good case for a multiband compressor tough.

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:13 pm
by Pevec
CS70 wrote:
Pevec wrote:
James Perrett wrote:Solo piano is very good at highlighting distortion as there's nothing else going on to cover up the distortion. When you have it as part of the mix the distortion will be disguised by other elements in the mix that occupy the same frequency range as the distortion.

Unfortunately, same thing is happening in the whole mix as well.
The only workaround I have found is to cut lows and low mids from rhodes VST.

I guess you probably should, then? :D

Sounds like a good case for a multiband compressor tough.

I lose that sound when I do that, but if it works, I have no other choice :D
Gotta check some tutorials on multiband compressor, since I'm not a pro :D

Re: Exported song distorts on phone speakers

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:44 pm
by CS70
A MBC allows you to compress only a certain band and only when the level of that band is over a certain threshold (and it will do it with attack and release of your choice etc, like a regular compressor)

It could allow you to tame the low end when it is troubling the phone speaker while leaving it untouched while it doesn’t.

But hard to say what’s what without working the entire mix and looking at the sources.