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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby James Perrett » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:02 am

I had three screens for a while and found that one of them simply didn't get used much so I reverted back to two which just seems right to me.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby ManFromGlass » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:30 am

A studio owner friend just switched over to an ultrawide curved. He loves it.

You think there would be a study about eye/head/neck movement related to monitor viewing. I liked the idea of a small tv setup in the studio corner that has regular tv playing on it while one mixes (no volume). Supposedly the way it pulls focus now and then is healthier for the eyes.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby Luke W » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:23 am

I’ve got a 21:9 monitor which I intended to run on its own, but I really missed having a second screen quite quickly and added a TV above. The extra screen space is very nice though, I can open up a few plugins while working on an edit and still see enough of everything without dragging windows around. The one I’ve got came with some software that splits the screen into cells so that windows can snap to areas of the screen which can be really useful.

If I had the space I’d probably go for the best of both worlds approach and have two of them side by side :lol:
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby Zukan » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:27 am

James Perrett wrote:I had three screens for a while and found that one of them simply didn't get used much so I reverted back to two which just seems right to me.

Which ones James?
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby Forum Admin » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:36 am

MOF wrote:...and moving the mouse from one screen to the other to get to the dock and then back to the first monitor.

Isn't that where Mission Control (F4) comes in handy?

Actually, desmond's comment has reminded me about SPACES - I have 17 available and currently use only one - crackers! Now I have somewhere to put Chrome browser when doing GMeets.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby The Elf » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:52 am

I know a couple of people who had curved TVs and regretted it when they realised just how wonky everything looked.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby Folderol » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:06 am

I've only seen them in shop windows. They look weird to me. I suspect you would need one to completely fill your field of view, otherwise your brain will be fighting to differentiate this from the real surroundings.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby Forum Admin » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:10 am

Curved screens are probably really best for immersive games where you want to feel "in" the action but can live with peripheries being out of focus (like real life).
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby desmond » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:14 am

Forum Admin wrote:Actually, desmond's comment has reminded me about SPACES - I have 17 available and currently use only one - crackers! Now I have somewhere to put Chrome browser when doing GMeets.

The approach I've settled on over the years is to basically have 8, two rows of four. For me, having too many spaces just becomes a mess too easily, and I don't need them. It's like being in a massive room - there's always free space available to put something so it doesn't enforce any structure or consistency.

For general laptop/single monitor use, the top row 1-4 are main working environments.

The next row down 5-8 are mostly communication & admin - stuff I need open but don't want getting in the way of the work - so 5 (directly underneath 1) is generally Mail, 6 is Slack, 7 and 8 are various utility things like FTP, Versions, Itunes and other stuff.

I have things set up so certain apps always go to certain spaces - so eg when I run Mail, it always goes to space 5, my SQL tool always goes to 3 and so on so it enforces some structure and consistency in use.

Key commands are CNTRL+ALT + arrow keys let me move left/right/up/down, and I can also go directly to spaces 1-8 using CNTRL+ALT+COMMAND+ 1-8 number keys.

For me, nothing ruins workflows more than juggling multiple windows around, or trying to find which window you want in a sea of windows, moving and resizing things around just to see other things and so on.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby CS70 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:35 am

James Perrett wrote:I had three screens for a while and found that one of them simply didn't get used much so I reverted back to two which just seems right to me.

Two screens is fine for mixing, but I find I miss a third screen when editing video.

Conceptually I keep separate three zones - timeline, preview and a working area, ideally center, left and right. With two screens, the "working area" (trimmer, file system, plugin, external player etc) is always overlapping something else (and in Windows the interaction between the file explorer, Vegas preview window and returning from a full screen player is always annoying - as it alters the Z-order of the windows requiring one additional click).

So a horizontal three screens configuration would be great.

But since I use the same desk for both video and audio processing, it just doesn't fit... it would make it impossible to have the nearfields anywhere near a reasonable position. Already with two screens my head is a little "inside the triangle" and the stereo image is not as clear as it could be.

Compromises... :D
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby CS70 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:37 am

Folderol wrote:I've only seen them in shop windows. They look weird to me. I suspect you would need one to completely fill your field of view, otherwise your brain will be fighting to differentiate this from the real surroundings.

I guess, as many things, you need to get used to them, trying for a while without preconceptions, before deciding if they're good or not.

They're definitely different, and we always instinctively equate "different" with "bad"..

The question is whether or not to go to the pain of purchasing, recabling, recalibrating and testing only to find out that it's not! :)
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby CS70 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:42 am

Luke W wrote:I’ve got a 21:9 monitor which I intended to run on its own, but I really missed having a second screen quite quickly and added a TV above.

Thanks, yeah, that's what I'm fearing as well :)

A plus is that I'd need to color-calibrate only one monitor instead of two, and just to something that I perceive as a reasonable setup, instead of having to use a lot of time to color match two panels every month that drift in slightly different ways. I'm still pretty slow at color calibration.

The extra screen space is very nice though, I can open up a few plugins while working on an edit and still see enough of everything without dragging windows around. The one I’ve got came with some software that splits the screen into cells so that windows can snap to areas of the screen which can be really useful.

If I had the space I’d probably go for the best of both worlds approach and have two of them side by side :lol:

Yeah I've tried the cell-splitting software at the shop and it's really completely removed one of my main concerns (I hate resizing windows)
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby ManFromGlass » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:27 pm

Justification #253B -
At least 2 is good because One could break so there will be a “spare” until the new one arrives. And they only break just before a deadline or a producer is coming over.

If you ordered a curved one from amazon or such you could always return it no questions asked.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby CS70 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:57 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:Justification #253B -
At least 2 is good because One could break so there will be a “spare” until the new one arrives. And they only break just before a deadline or a producer is coming over.

If you ordered a curved one from amazon or such you could always return it no questions asked.

Ahah yeah I have plenty 27" monitors at home. Could have one up per room.

What I usually do is that I buy used and resell in case. New costs too much for anything that's obsolete after a couple years imho.
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Re: 21:9 screen vs. dual monitors

Postby blinddrew » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:05 pm

CS70 wrote:
James Perrett wrote:I had three screens for a while and found that one of them simply didn't get used much so I reverted back to two which just seems right to me.

Two screens is fine for mixing, but I find I miss a third screen when editing video.

Conceptually I keep separate three zones - timeline, preview and a working area, ideally center, left and right. With two screens, the "working area" (trimmer, file system, plugin, external player etc) is always overlapping something else (and in Windows the interaction between the file explorer, Vegas preview window and returning from a full screen player is always annoying - as it alters the Z-order of the windows requiring one additional click).

So a horizontal three screens configuration would be great.

But since I use the same desk for both video and audio processing, it just doesn't fit... it would make it impossible to have the nearfields anywhere near a reasonable position. Already with two screens my head is a little "inside the triangle" and the stereo image is not as clear as it could be.

Compromises... :D
Raise the monitors over the screens and point them downwards?
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