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[Tjbenz]

Curious what Key you guys use when using auto tune for vocals. I know the "classic T Pain" style is a C Major but I have been using D-Major on my vocals and it seems to sound better. Curious what you guys are using. Attached is my vocals with D-Major for reference.
https://youtu.be/LQLKdus7woA

[Ramirez]

Sorry if I’m missing something here, but surely you set it to the key of the song?

[Luke W]

Sorry if I’m missing something here, but surely you set it to the key of the song?

Also a little confused and thinking the same thing.

[CS70]

I just read an article about this T-Pain at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/art ... ink-he-is/ and I felt like I had just arrived from Mars.

There is apparently a mega-hit called “Fancy” by a guy called Iggy Azalea and I have never heard of either.

Jesus.

For the OP: I have no idea. I suppose you put it in whatever key sounds good to you. That, has not changed in music since we went past Gregorian chants.

[blinddrew]

Hmm. Add me to the 'why would you not tune to the key of the song?' group... :?:

[EDIT] Just listened to your track, which is in Am I think, so I think part of what might be happening here is around the use of autotune as an effect rather than as a corrective process (which might be how a few of us think of it).
By choosing an autotune key that's not the key of the song you're going to get a very obvious and pronounced slurring of the note - highlighting the effect. If you're chosen to use C over an Am track that's going to be much less apparent as Am is the relative minor of C.

[Ramirez]

Hmm. Add me to the 'why would you not tune to the key of the song?' group... :?:

[EDIT] Just listened to your track, which is in Am I think, so I think part of what might be happening here is around the use of autotune as an effect rather than as a corrective process (which might be how a few of us think of it).
By choosing an autotune key that's not the key of the song you're going to get a very obvious and pronounced slurring of the note - highlighting the effect. If you're chosen to use C over an Am track that's going to be much less apparent as Am is the relative minor of C.

A very good point!

[Martin Walker]

There is apparently a mega-hit called “Fancy” by a guy called Iggy Azalea and I have never heard of either.

Er, Iggy Azalea is a female rapper :beamup:


Martin

[blinddrew]

I was going to let that pass, I thought CS70 was having a tough enough day already... ;)

[Music Wolf]

There is apparently a mega-hit called “Fancy” by a guy called Iggy Azalea and I have never heard of either.

Er, Iggy Azalea is a female rapper :beamup:


Martin

He did say that he hadn't heard of them :bouncy:

[MOF]

CS70 wrote:
There is apparently a mega-hit called “Fancy” by a guy called Iggy Azalea and I have never heard of either.

Er, Iggy Azalea is a female rapper :beamup:


Martin

He did say that he hadn't heard of them :bouncy:

Autotune can make it very difficult to ascertain what gender the vocalist is. :lol:

[shufflebeat]

Should I be rethinking my assumptions about Iggy Pop as well now?

This is so confusing.

I'm not an autotune connoisseur but the way I understand it from my explorations is that choosing a key (in it's most basic form) merely limits the options as regards the number of notes that the effect will pull towards.

If this is the case and your performance isn't too far off the mark then "chromatic" should suffice for most applications.

...or am I stuck in the early 2000's?

[BJG145]

Curious what Key you guys use when using auto tune for vocals. I know the "classic T Pain" style is a C Major but I have been using D-Major on my vocals and it seems to sound better. Curious what you guys are using. Attached is my vocals with D-Major for reference.
https://youtu.be/LQLKdus7woA

The track moves between two chords based on Em and F. It starts on Em.

The first note you sing is F#. That note appears in the scale for Em, and in the scale for D. So if you set up Autotune with either of those, it will aim to pull that note to the correct pitch.

It doesn't appear in the scale of C however. So if you set up Autotune with C, it would try to pull that note either flat to F, or sharp to G, depending which it thought was closest. Neither would sound good.

So like people say, it depends on the key, or the chords that are used in the song. It doesn't necessarily have to be the key the song is in, but whatever key or notes you select for Autotune need to reflect the notes you're singing, or it will try to pull them sharp or flat. I'd agree that chromatic is usually a safe option as long as your pitching isn't more than a semitone out, unless you're going for an hard Autotune effect where it will snap changing tones to notes in a particular scale, rather than a 'chromatic scale'. I can see there's a bit of an art to this when you're rapping and moving between sung and spoken words.

[Sam Spoons]

I think this is right. Going for the hard tuned sound I'd start with the actual notes in the melody and create a custom scale by removing all the notes that aren't in the tune from a chromatic scale. I don't see an issue with a mix of rapping and singing, just defeat the AT plug in during the spoken parts?

[CS70]

There is apparently a mega-hit called “Fancy” by a guy called Iggy Azalea and I have never heard of either.

Er, Iggy Azalea is a female rapper :beamup:


Martin

I am currently looking for someplace to crawl under :lol:

[zenguitar]

I am currently looking for someplace to crawl under :lol:

How about an Azalea bush?

:angel:

Andy :beamup: