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Postby cmmpsantos » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:37 am

Hello there!
I'm looking for a mixer, if any, with just 16 line (mono) inputs. No stereo inputs are required.
Why? Well, my old Behringer mix console with 24 channels has died and honestly it is too large to have at home. So, I still have a M-Audio Delta 1010 which can route my analog inputs to the outputs (I'm looking for a new audio interface since PCI cards are getting obsolete). This way I can send the outputs to my analog Tascam MSR-16 R2R tape recorder (I can handle recording up to 8 channels each time) for final and main projects (anything else I don't mind to record in digital) as I prefer analog to digital.
So this is the "why" answer. I just need a mixer for listening and for mastering the 16 tracks of my tape recorder. Specially if that mixer can be mount on a 19" rack.
I know that I can use a 16 channel mixer with up to 2 stereo inputs as I will some stuff recording as "stereo" into 2 of the 16 tracks. However, I really prefer to mix down each track.

Thank you and best regards to all here,
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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby ef37a » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:24 am

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-RX16 ... ooghydr-21

I don't suppose it is the last word in technical specifications but for tape?

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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby Arpangel » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:56 am

If you’re mastering from tape, then I guess you’re after an analogue mixer with character too, something decent, at least sixteen mono channels, you won’t need groups, if you’re mastering to stereo.
There are plenty of nice analogue mixers out there, old and new, new ones I’d look at would be the Allen &Heath Mix Wizard 16-2, the Soundcraft FX16, Soundcraft GB2R, Yamaha MGX20XU, all sixteen mono channels, and rack mounting.
The vintage and secondhand market has loads, depending on your budget, the choice is huge, you just have to have a look around.
My choice of the above from a sound quality point of view would be the Allen & Heath, great EQ, lots of sends for effects on mix-down.
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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby ef37a » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:01 am

Arpangel wrote:If you’re mastering from tape, then I guess you’re after an analogue mixer with character too, something decent, at least sixteen mono channels, you won’t need groups, if you’re mastering to stereo.
There are plenty of nice analogue mixers out there, old and new, new ones I’d look at would be the Allen &Heath Mix Wizard 16-2, the Soundcraft FX16, Soundcraft GB2R, Yamaha MGX20XU, all sixteen mono channels, and rack mounting.
The vintage and secondhand market has loads, depending on your budget, the choice is huge, you just have to have a look around.
My choice of the above from a sound quality point of view would be the Allen & Heath, great EQ, lots of sends for effects on mix-down.

I think the OP wants a line only mixer? Pointless to pay for 16 preamps and XLRs and spook juice you don't need.

I would also avoid a second hand mixer like the plague. SO many faders, pots, switches and connectors to go bad.

That Behringer I found is essentially stereo. I think to get 16 'discrete' mono channels he is going to have to buy two 8 ways?

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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby cmmpsantos » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:15 pm

Thank you all for helping!

@Dave - I know that module but it lacks EQs which helps adjusting some tracks if whenever needed.
As @Arpangel said, and completely aligned to my thoughts, if I'm using a tape recorder and as an analogue enthusiast, the Behringer module is... doughhhhhh....

The Allen &Heath Mix Wizard 16-2 really looks like an excellent option, but not that cheap though... :think:

Anyway, I have now some good options to look after.
Thank you again!

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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby ef37a » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:02 pm

cmmpsantos wrote:Thank you all for helping!

@Dave - I know that module but it lacks EQs which helps adjusting some tracks if whenever needed.
As @Arpangel said, and completely aligned to my thoughts, if I'm using a tape recorder and as an analogue enthusiast, the Behringer module is... doughhhhhh....

The Allen &Heath Mix Wizard 16-2 really looks like an excellent option, but not that cheap though... :think:

Anyway, I have now some good options to look after.
Thank you again!

Kind regards,

I had got the impression that you wanted a LINE level input mixer simply to accept 16 tracks to bounce to a stereo 'master'? The A&H is indeed a very nice mixer but I did not think you wanted all those bells and whistles? I have a ZED 10 and that is also pretty good, my son used it to mix from a 4 track Teac OR machine.

The Behringer would IMHO be fine for the purpose, any noise or distortion it might add to the signal would be way below the levels coming from tape. OK, maybe not use one as the 'hub' of a digital Prism or Benchmark system (though even there, I doubt you could tell in from out!) but bouncing tape around? Having a giraffe.

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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby ef37a » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:40 pm

Yes!
"Mixers with only mono line inputs" Wot you posted. Now you are going all fancy-pants, beardy/tweaky subjectivists on us.

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Re: Mixers with only mono line inputs

Postby cmmpsantos » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:55 pm

@Dave I understand your point of view, and honestly, the Behringer solution could be great if I was recording with all the EQ set. But remember I'm using a direct route between my instruments and the tape recorder through an audio interface. So I'll be recording the sound as-is without any EQ retouch if needed. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on this subject. I may want to mix-down for another analogue tape for mastering or to send the tracks for subsequent A/D conversion and a final mastering in digital. When I mentioned a mixer, and sorry again if I wasn't clear enough, I wanted to a mixer like A&H to allow me to adjust EQ whenever needed, precisely.
So, I'm not going all fancy-pants, beardy/tweaky subjectivism on anyone, and that would be against my standards for sure.

Again, sorry if I didn't make myself more clear and again, thank you for your suggestion. Indeed it could be an excellent choice in other circumstances.
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