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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Marbury » Sun May 16, 2021 9:34 am

Looks like I will stick with the absolute 2s in a room, and monitors I know well. For the end mix I will use the Shure headphones.
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby blinddrew » Sun May 16, 2021 10:45 am

It's the boring option but probably makes sense.
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Marbury » Sun May 16, 2021 11:00 am

For now at least unless someone would take a commission on designing/treating my room :D
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Martin Walker » Sun May 16, 2021 5:40 pm

Marbury wrote:For now at least unless someone would take a commission on designing/treating my room :D

Dare I mention that most online acoustic treatment manufacturers will happily provide free recommendations based on your room dimensions and a quick sketch of where you intend to place your gear?

You've got nothing to lose by asking advice from the professionals! :thumbup:


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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Martin Walker » Sun May 16, 2021 5:44 pm

RichardT wrote:Room correction software can only get you so far - actually not that far at all! Although it will adjust the frequency balance, it won’t affect how long your room will resonate. This is what causes most of the blurring at lower frequencies. It also won’t do anything to deal with reflected sound.

In my experience, once you've got sufficient acoustic treatment to get your room frequency response to have peaks and troughs no bigger than 6dB from the baseline, room correction software can make a significant improvement to the final result.

However, room correction software can never totally correct for an untreated room, so it's an enhancement rather than cure-all.


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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Mike Stranks » Sun May 16, 2021 6:17 pm

Martin Walker wrote:
Marbury wrote:For now at least unless someone would take a commission on designing/treating my room :D

Dare I mention that most online acoustic treatment manufacturers will happily provide free recommendations based on your room dimensions and a quick sketch of where you intend to place your gear?

You've got nothing to lose by asking advice from the professionals! :thumbup:


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I mentioned this in an earlier post... I even included a URL link that took you straight to a manufacturer's "We can help you" page.

You can take a horse to water... :)
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby RichardT » Sun May 16, 2021 8:33 pm

Martin Walker wrote:
RichardT wrote:Room correction software can only get you so far - actually not that far at all! Although it will adjust the frequency balance, it won’t affect how long your room will resonate. This is what causes most of the blurring at lower frequencies. It also won’t do anything to deal with reflected sound.

In my experience, once you've got sufficient acoustic treatment to get your room frequency response to have peaks and troughs no bigger than 6dB from the baseline, room correction software can make a significant improvement to the final result.

However, room correction software can never totally correct for an untreated room, so it's an enhancement rather than cure-all.


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Yes I agree!
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Sam Spoons » Fri May 21, 2021 10:12 pm

Another +1 for "TREAT THE ROOM"... Been their bought the tee shirt, the difference is night and day :thumbup:
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Marbury » Sun May 23, 2021 11:14 am

But again, my room does not have any way of accommodating big sound traps anywhere, and I don't have the luxury of an extra room to play with. I think egg boxes are the way to go, and I read in Mike Oldfield's biography that it worked for his his first home studio in Hergest Ridge and we all know what a perfectionist with production he was.
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sun May 23, 2021 12:32 pm

:thumbup: :D
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Mike Stranks » Sun May 23, 2021 5:47 pm

Marbury wrote:But again, my room does not have any way of accommodating big sound traps anywhere, and I don't have the luxury of an extra room to play with. I think egg boxes are the way to go, and I read in Mike Oldfield's biography that it worked for his his first home studio in Hergest Ridge and we all know what a perfectionist with production he was.

Fair enough...

In that case, the answer to your original question is, "No", but in your situation neither are any monitors over about £500 for the pair. You simply won't reap their benefits.

You don't need "big sound traps". You want an effective form of acoustic control; the two are not synonymous.

As a final forlorn attempt... https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/diy-acoustic-treatment-15-minute-challenge
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby RichardT » Sun May 23, 2021 5:56 pm

Egg boxes - I think Marbury may be gently trolling us. ;)
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Marbury » Mon May 24, 2021 9:08 am

Mike Stranks wrote:
Marbury wrote:But again, my room does not have any way of accommodating big sound traps anywhere, and I don't have the luxury of an extra room to play with. I think egg boxes are the way to go, and I read in Mike Oldfield's biography that it worked for his his first home studio in Hergest Ridge and we all know what a perfectionist with production he was.

Fair enough...

In that case, the answer to your original question is, "No", but in your situation neither are any monitors over about £500 for the pair. You simply won't reap their benefits.

You don't need "big sound traps". You want an effective form of acoustic control; the two are not synonymous.

As a final forlorn attempt... https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/diy-acoustic-treatment-15-minute-challenge

That'll do thanks. I am about to make some garden trellises.

FWIW The egg box suggestion was genuine as Mike Oldfield endorsed in his book "Changeling"
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Luke W » Mon May 24, 2021 9:29 am

Egg boxes are brilliant... For holding multiple eggs in one convenient location.

But I wouldnt put them on the wall for the same reason that I wouldnt use rockwool panels to carry food around. :D
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Re: HEDD 20 Mk2 - Are they worth the money ?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon May 24, 2021 10:03 am

Luke W wrote:...for the same reason that I wouldnt use rockwool panels to carry food around. :D


Oh... so shouldn't I be doing that then? :shocked:

It's just that I had some left over and I didn't want to pay 10p for the bags... :lol:
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