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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:21 pm

RichardT wrote:...you’re missing both low and high frequencies

Hmm... I mentioned the lack of low end warmth previously, but in the details of his tweaks, worshiptuned mentioned that he'd:

"Raised the kicks 1.5 Db
Reduced the low cut and the low end compression of the double bass, I hope is less thin
Raised the double bass of 0.5 Db"

...which is not what Id have done to increase the low end warmth - that needs EQ, not level increases :(


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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby worshiptuned » Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:29 pm

RichardT wrote:I like the material very much, but I think this needs a lot of work to reach the level of a finished track. If you’ve released it already, I hope my feedback helps with future tracks.

The sound is messy, you’re missing both low and high frequencies, there’s very little stereo width, and the dynamics are very flat. Generally it sounds like you’ve played the whole track through a poor quality speaker and recorded the results.....
I would listen to some high quality, dynamic, reference tracks alongside yours.

Thanks for your valuable opinion. I really appreciate!!! I also noticed that the high frequencies are missing. You underlined the right points. A bit difficult to swallow, but that's the reality.. :SOS:
I was intentioned to release it but...your comment caused me to think that is better to work more on it. I don't have my equipment and I'll be back home next month, then it will be a serious exercise of patience, I hope it will pay back ;)
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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby worshiptuned » Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:30 pm

Martin Walker wrote:...which is not what Id have done to increase the low end warmth - that needs EQ, not level increases :(
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Good to know!!!

I have to work more on this as I said to Richard. But maybe it’s too much to post the update, I don’t want ask too much to the forum, you already provided a valuable feedback, thanks to all of you!!! :wave:

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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby RichardT » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:10 pm

worshiptuned wrote:
RichardT wrote:I like the material very much, but I think this needs a lot of work to reach the level of a finished track. If you’ve released it already, I hope my feedback helps with future tracks.

The sound is messy, you’re missing both low and high frequencies, there’s very little stereo width, and the dynamics are very flat. Generally it sounds like you’ve played the whole track through a poor quality speaker and recorded the results.....
I would listen to some high quality, dynamic, reference tracks alongside yours.

Thanks for your valuable opinion. I really appreciate!!! I also noticed that the high frequencies are missing. You underlined the right points. A bit difficult to swallow, but that's the reality.. :SOS:
I was intentioned to release it but...your comment caused me to think that is better to work more on it. I don't have my equipment and I'll be back home next month, then it will be a serious exercise of patience, I hope it will pay back ;)

Hi Worshiptuned,

I wouldn’t have commented like that unless I thought the track was worth it. I really think it’s good and all those things can probably be fixed quite easily as long as the basic recordings are reasonable.

I was probably a bit more blunt than I should have been. I feel the same way about my own tracks sometimes!

I think if you move some instruments further out towards the sides to create more spatial separation it will start to increase the clarity in itself. And maybe create a bit more separation between the vocal tracks.

I’m wondering if you might benefit from adding in some sampled drums too...
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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby RichardT » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:10 pm

worshiptuned wrote:
Martin Walker wrote:...which is not what Id have done to increase the low end warmth - that needs EQ, not level increases :(
Martin

Good to know!!!

I have to work more on this as I said to Richard. But maybe it’s too much to post the update, I don’t want ask too much to the forum, you already provided a valuable feedback, thanks to all of you!!! :wave:

Filippo

You’re very welcome to post as many versions as you want!
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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby blinddrew » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:05 am

RichardT wrote:You’re very welcome to post as many versions as you want!
Yep, people won't always have time to listen, but things posted in good faith will always be welcome. I've had enormous amounts of help from the people on this forum by doing that. We don't tend to have much patience for spammers but where someone's clearly working through a problem or developing a song you'll generally find plenty of help. :thumbup:
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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby worshiptuned » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:29 pm

blinddrew wrote:
RichardT wrote:You’re very welcome to post as many versions as you want!
Yep, people won't always have time to listen, but things posted in good faith will always be welcome. I've had enormous amounts of help from the people on this forum by doing that. We don't tend to have much patience for spammers but where someone's clearly working through a problem or developing a song you'll generally find plenty of help. :thumbup:

Thank you guys, I got it!!! I will definitely take advantage!!! :thumbup:
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Re: Mix review, your advice on my song "Illusion"

Postby worshiptuned » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:34 pm

RichardT wrote:
Hi Worshiptuned,

I wouldn’t have commented like that unless I thought the track was worth it. I really think it’s good and all those things can probably be fixed quite easily as long as the basic recordings are reasonable.

I was probably a bit more blunt than I should have been. I feel the same way about my own tracks sometimes!

I think if you move some instruments further out towards the sides to create more spatial separation it will start to increase the clarity in itself. And maybe create a bit more separation between the vocal tracks.

I’m wondering if you might benefit from adding in some sampled drums too...

thanks for the encouragement, these are already sampled drums...a kit of Groove Agent, it sounded nicely. I was probably able to badly EQ it and make it lifeless :D
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