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Live streaming on Facebook

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:54 pm
by Steve A
Next weekend we are planning to live stream our big end of year show in Edinburgh. We are using the services of a specialist provider who holds a PRS licence that covers such things but he tells us that despite this he still occasionally has content taken down / blocked by Facebook and has had difficulty obtaining clarity on how to make it clear to Facebook that the stream is properly licensed either from PRS or Facebook themselves. I wonder if anyone else here has experience of such things? I have no wish to incur a sanction from Facebook or have our band page blocked and since ours is a tribute/covers show, clearly licensing needs to be properly addressed and I am not knowingly trying to 'get away' with avoiding this. Our audience is unlikely to be huge but I am keen to do it to try and create a bit of a buzz and bring us to the attention of potential fans/promoters further afield.

Re: Live streaming on Facebook

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:12 am
by Emmet
Unlike YouTube, Facebook doesn't yet have the licences to broadcast covers etc thought they just done so with Universal, although that will take a while to come on stream. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/12/21/facebook-and-universal-music-group-sign-global-licence-deal/

Unless you have any covers of some big names in there, you'll be fine.

Re: Live streaming on Facebook

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:52 am
by blinddrew
Sorry Steve A, meant to reply to this ages ago. Firstly, if your provider has got the right clearances then that's pretty much as far as you can go. Stuff will still get taken down though for a couple of reasons:
1) because some platforms run algorithmic routines, so it doesn't matter if you have a licence, it will just link a sound file to a list of recognised pages,
and 2) because a lot of major IP companies outsource the policing of the process to third parties who are paid by number of takedowns.
Sadly you'll just need to keep contacting the platform owners with your proof of licensing and get them to reinstate the stream.
Good luck with the show! :)

Re: Live streaming on Facebook

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:51 pm
by Steve A
Hi guys, thanks for the comments! We went ahead with the show anyway and it all worked like a dream. It's still up in fact. As a matter of interest, speaking to our man on the night he was pretty clear that that Facebook regards the individual who posts the feed as responsible and the one they will take action against, so even by temporarily making him an admin of our page and posting it direct to it, h was adamant our 'page' itself was safe. Whether that would actually turn out to be the case if push came to shove, who knows but we certainly appear to have got through it unscathed a chalked up 1.3k views during the show itself which certainly made the exercise worthwhile.

Re: Live streaming on Facebook

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:03 pm
by blinddrew
Good work on the show and the views :)
IANAL but my understanding of US law (specifically section 230) is that liability remains with the person who uploaded the video, so you should be ok in the highly unlikely event of any legal action.
Probably won't stop FB taking it down if there's a complaint or if something trips their algorithms.