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Postby Brian M Rose » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:41 pm

I just visited my local music shop (in Northwood Hills) The owner related an only too familiar story. People will visit them, spend hours trying out guitars, amps etc and getting advice and then say 'Thanks anyway' and buy elsewhere or online 'saving' a few quid.
It must be very frustrating. I know from my days in television broadcast that 'service is everything' . When things go wrong, the few quid you 'saved' turns into hundreds or thousands of pounds in lost time and production.
So next time, think about it, before it's too late.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Folderol » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:11 pm

Absolutely agree.
When we still had a music shop in Chatham I used to drop in from time to time and always bought something - even if it was just another set of guitar strings
... I seem to have some spares :)
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Wonks » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:12 pm

Folderol wrote:Absolutely agree.
When we still had a music shop in Chatham I used to drop in from time to time and always bought something - even if it was just another set of guitar strings
... I seem to have some spares :)

One day you might even get round to buying a guitar. ;)
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Folderol » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:15 pm

Wonks wrote:
Folderol wrote:Absolutely agree.
When we still had a music shop in Chatham I used to drop in from time to time and always bought something - even if it was just another set of guitar strings
... I seem to have some spares :)

One day you might even get round to buying a guitar. ;)
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I have a guitar, bought from the same shop.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Wonks » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:21 pm

My proper local music shop moved. At first I though they had just closed down, but about 6 months later I found out they'd moved. But they've moved to somewhere that I never now naturally pass by, and with awkward parking so I've yet to visit.

But my local music shop 'mentally' is still Andertons, as for half my life I only lived about 5 miles away from it and used it all the time. But now it's 25 miles away, I still feel that it's my local store.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:26 pm

I buy both from my local shops and off the internet but I would not go and try stuff in the shop then buy off the net. If I try it in the shop and like it I'll buy it in the shop.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby James Perrett » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Wonks wrote:But my local music shop 'mentally' is still Andertons, as for half my life I only lived about 5 miles away from it and used it all the time. But now it's 25 miles away, I still feel that it's my local store.

I bought my first guitar and synth from Andertons and I used to pass it every week and look in the window on my way to college. In fact I ended up joining a band after one of the other students noticed me looking in their window and asked if I wanted to join his band.

Fortunately they've made a good job of the transition to online shopping so I'll still buy things from them, even though I don't pop into the shop so often nowadays.

I'd also like to put in a good word for Street Level in Southsea - I was amazed at all the bits and pieces that they had when I was last in there. If you are in the area and looking for an odd cable, a useful accessory or need a guitar repaired it is worth popping in to see them. I used to live just down the road from them but was ordering stuff over the Internet when it turns out that I could have bought the same things just as cheaply locally.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby The Bunk » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:05 pm

Massive Anderton's fan here; I was in there last week, having not been for a while, and it just reminded me of the actual pleasure of just going in there. The fact that they are still going and I would suspect are therefore still a success means they've got their business model right. I don't know how much local competition there is but I have a 15-mile drive, and yes sometimes a bit of parking agg, to get there but I'm probably nearer to Chandler's in Kew. What keeps me going there...? The staff and their knowledge/service for one. I think every member of the team I came across there last week either nodded or said hello.

Whilst there I overheard two quite interesting conversations; one between a member of the public looking for work over Christmas and a member of staff, who basically said that even if he was an extra pair of hands at a busy time, he *must* still have a specialist knowledge in one of their departments. I have never met a member of staff in that store who doesn't know their stuff.

And the other was between a member of staff and a customer who claimed he'd seen the same item cheaper elsewhere - and they advertise a price-match policy - so the member of staff said he needed to get onto the blower to the Manager. So, and without giving the impression of being desperate, they will meet a lower price by all accounts.

And then there is the whole thing about sending something back if needed. I just would not want to even go there with an on-line purchase.

I just love going there for the whole "shopping" experience; maybe I'm old-fashioned.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Wonks » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 pm

The Bunk wrote:but I'm probably nearer to Chandler's in Kew.

Sadly there is no Chandlers in Kew any more. They shut down a few years ago because of the business rates shooting up. Charlie Chandlers Guitar Experience is still going in Hampton Wick, but not Chandlers.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby The Bunk » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:01 pm

Wonks wrote:
Sadly there is no Chandlers in Kew any more.

I must admit I was questioning myself as I wrote that. That is sad indeed. What’s there now, a couple of coffee shops or delicatessens instead? We do need more of them for sure.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby John Egan » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:36 pm

The Bunk wrote:
Wonks wrote:
Sadly there is no Chandlers in Kew any more.

I must admit I was questioning myself as I wrote that. That is sad indeed. What’s there now, a couple of coffee shops or delicatessens instead? We do need more of them for sure.


These days I mostly buy secondhand guitars from shops I can visit or which have good websites with up to date photos and descriptions and staff whom I can trust to be honest if I phone them up.

I also buy from my local shop, The Rhythm House in Hanley (Stoke-on-Trent), I have known Neil, Ben and the rest of the staff for a long time. They also occasionally sell the odd guitar for me.

Online I usually use Coda and Guitar Guitar, although I have also used Sounds Great, Soundpad and Chandlers before it closed. Sadly, I don't find Andertons' descriptions of their secondhand stuff detailed enough to give me the impetus to phone them.

But I wouldn't try guitars in my local shop and then buy them elsewhere. I think the service they offer deserves support.

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Re: Music Shops

Postby Wonks » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:42 pm

I've bought second-hand gear from Andertons, though normally in-store. It's all been good quality stuff, though I can understand feeling hesitant if you don't feel confident about the description. One problem with phoning is that often the equipment will be in the warehouse, not the store. If so, you certainly won't get an answer straight away as the warehouse is a 10-15 minute drive away from the store.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby blinddrew » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:46 pm

I'm quite lucky in that I have Dawsons and Hobgoblin music close by work in Leeds, but my local music store is gear4music. I know they're a big box-packer, but they're also my local store and actually quite a big local employer - including about half of my musician friends in the area.
Product expertise can be a bit hit and miss though...
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Wonks » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:02 pm

Dawsons. A store I have very few positive experiences of.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby blinddrew » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:35 pm

Convenient for strings and things. Anything acousticcy tends to be Hobgoblin, anything else tends to be G4M
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Music Wolf » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:57 pm

Wonks wrote:Dawsons. A store I have very few positive experiences of.

Spare a thought for those of us who grew up in Warrington (home to the original store) and consider that their service used to be a lot, lot, worse than it is now.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Mike Stranks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:03 am

Now I live in Little Bumstead in the Wold It's nearly all Internet shopping for me - quick high-five for Studiospares: ordered 1545 yesterday; delivered 0945 today on an 'ordinary' shipping basis.

But for stuff like recorders I go to PinkNoise Systems... in countryside terms, just down the road. Friendly and knowledgeable people who remember you. Bore fruit when my Zoom F4 developed a niggly problem with its power-supply. Took it back... extensive diagnostic testing while I was given coffee... and a replacement given on the spot by cannibalising some new stock. That's service!

Nostalgia time... fond memories of PMT Oxford who opened there in '95 I think. Bob and Dave were really, really helpful and we became good friends. Kept in touch after they both moved on to other things. From what I hear, PMT Oxford maintains high standards and are still offering good advice - and good prices!
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Re: Music Shops

Postby MarkOne » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:19 am

PMT Bristol seem to take most of my disposable income :roll:

I've always found them very helpful, always prepared to be flexible on price, and, in a couple of recent cases, they've got me gear they don't normally stock.

I know they're part of a chain but I'd still prefer to actually patronise the shop than order online.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Sam Spoons » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:01 pm

PMT in Manchester, the staff there are knowledgeable and helpful, they had a price match policy and a return policy (which I availed myself of when I decided I couldn't live with the KeyStep's mini keys). I also go to Sounds Great, likewise knowledgeable and helpful staff and great stock.
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Re: Music Shops

Postby Brian M Rose » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:38 pm

The shop in Northwood Hills is Stompbox. Everyone there is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable.
Actually Northwood Hills in the suburbs of London is rather unusual in having many independent shops, including opposite Stompbox, a real piano shop. In truth, there isn't always a huge difference in price from a specialist dealer and a box shifter. You may pay slightly more, but then you're getting sensible advice, experience and backup. That has to be worth something!
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