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Postby Still Vibrations » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:57 am

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Re: 8 Track return

Postby The Elf » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:09 am

It's always fascinating to hear people talking such utter blarks when you hope they'd know better. :yawn:

Pity the poor deluded hipsters who are out there right now searching for 8-track players to hear all this amazing 'warmth'... :beamup:
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Watchmaker » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:32 am

"Audiophiles say the 8-track delivers a better sonic experience than modern pop’s processed digital files. "

They do? Only because they've never actually heard one.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Rich Hanson » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:39 am

Christ no, horrible horrible format :thumbdown:
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:40 am

It was inevitable that people would eventually start to recognise and abhor lossy data-reduction coding artefacts, especially when using stupidly low data rates for their files... and when that happens analogue tape formats would obviously sound better and 'more natural' -- despite all their other inherent quality issues and limitations.

I've bought a vinyl album and a couple of CDs this week, and digitised a cassette... All these old and obsolete formats are great, aren't they? :lol:
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby ManFromGlass » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:41 pm

the great thing about standards is that we have so many of them! :smirk:

I guess I better start saving up for an 8 track player with a usb connector. One can never have too many copies of the White Album in every format.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby nathanscribe » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:42 pm

They should bring back smoking at pub gigs, modern air just lacks the vintage warmth of a crowded boozer.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Rich Hanson » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:00 pm

It's the "four Yorkshiremen" sketch, only with audio formats :D
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Watchmaker » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:54 pm

nathanscribe wrote:They should bring back smoking at pub gigs, modern air just lacks the vintage warmth of a crowded boozer.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Eddy Deegan » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:06 pm

“Tape, either cassette or 8 track tape, sounds super warm and round"

He's got a point though, I always disliked sound that had corners on it :roll:
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Mike Stranks » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:54 pm

8-track? Cassette? Pah!

Bring back Elcaset say I! Analogue, shiny machines with proper meters, clunky switches and large pots .... what more could you want for superb audio?

(The search-term 'Elcaset' will now rocket-up the Google popular searches chart! ) :lol:
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby James Perrett » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:00 pm

I transferred an 8 track master recently - complete with fade outs and fade ins in the middle of songs to allow for the track change.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:07 pm

Mike Stranks wrote:Bring back Elcaset say I!

Why not! :lol:

It was quite a nice system, actually. Most of the sound-quality benefits of open-reel tape with most of the convenience of a cassette...

1/4-inch tape running at 3-3/4ips -- so twice the tape width and double speed compared to cassette -- although the actual recorded track width for the stereo audio (in each direction) was narrower than standard four-track 1/4-inch tape as some space was given over to a locator/cue track for each direction.

Unfortunately for Sony, Teac and (I think) Panasonic, in the time it took them to develop the thing in the mid-70s, the performance of ordinary cassettes improved dramatically to the point where no one was prepared to pay for the Elcaset... and I don't think the record companies released any pre-recorded tapes for the format anyway, so it could only be used for home recording purposes. Cassettes were far cheaper for that purpose, almost as good, and could be played in cars and on Walkmans where the Elcaset couldn't.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Rich Hanson » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:07 pm

Mike Stranks wrote:8-track? Cassette? Pah!

Bring back Elcaset say I! Analogue, shiny machines with proper meters, clunky switches and large pots .... what more could you want for superb audio?

(The search-term 'Elcaset' will now rocket-up the Google popular searches chart! ) :lol:

Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkGMJBqZawA :thumbup:
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby MOF » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:33 pm

Bring back wax cylinders, for that real original retro vibe.
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby ConcertinaChap » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:17 pm

I love the bit at the end of the Wikipedia article on Elcaset where it says:

The Elcaset system was abandoned in 1980, when all the remaining systems were sold off in Finland.

So up yours from Sony, Finland!

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Re: 8 Track return

Postby OneWorld » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:14 pm

MOF wrote:Bring back wax cylinders, for that real original retro vibe.

Or even player pianos, or even..............musicians playing live sets
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby blinddrew » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:26 pm

Hush your crazy talk
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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Dave B » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:26 am

When I get a day or so free, I intend to sneak into a couple of trendy cafes in Shoreditch and have 'conversations' on my phone about how everyone is a fool for buying into the vinyl vibe when only old shellac records give the real sound that people should be listening to. Throw in a couple of early rock n roll examples, maybe a rare/obscure blues or jazz recording and then sit back and wait to see how long it takes before it hits the Guardian ......

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Re: 8 Track return

Postby Still Vibrations » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:05 am

Dave B wrote:When I get a day or so free, I intend to sneak into a couple of trendy cafes in Shoreditch and have 'conversations' on my phone about how everyone is a fool for buying into the vinyl vibe when only old shellac records give the real sound that people should be listening to. Throw in a couple of early rock n roll examples, maybe a rare/obscure blues or jazz recording and then sit back and wait to see how long it takes before it hits the Guardian ......

:D

Many years ago I read a suggestion that you should listen to music on the medium it was originally mastered for; e.g. 1960s rock on vinyl, Ambrose on 78 etc. - makes a lot of sense to me.

Anything that winds up the skinny jean wearing, mullet cropped, too-cool-for-school Shoreditch poseurs would be supported by me.
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