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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby The Red Bladder » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Exalted Wombat wrote:
The Red Bladder wrote:Sibelius is not a company, there are no employees and is now just IP.

You remain slightly (but critically) misinformed.

Sorry, you've lost me! Avid themselves have announced that they have closed all the back-office functions, leaving just the front-office functions within Avid to maintain turnover.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby johnny h » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:34 pm

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Exalted Wombat wrote:

"The software has been put in deep-freeze by its owners, Avid,..."

It's no more in deep-freeze than it was this time last week.

The support for Sibelius and Daniel Spreadbury's team is most impressive, but I'm afraid the campaign is terribly badly focussed.
What's your evidence? And how is it stronger than statements released by the Finn brothers?

A lot of the "evidence" we're seeing is pure supposition.
So you have no evidence whatsoever.

A clear statement was provided by the Finns which leaves very little to interpretation.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby Exalted Wombat » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:38 pm

The Finns know no more about Avid's intentions than we do - they cashed in and walked away from Sibelius 6 years ago.

Daniel is active on the Tech Support forum at this very moment, sounding very much like an Avid employee.

For some time, it could be said Avid had "outsourced" the engineering of Sibelius to London. They have announced the intention of outsourcing it elsewhere.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby 4TrackMadman » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:53 pm

Who is stopping the Finns from doing another, better app?

That is what ex-Cubase guys did with PreSonus Studio One and ex-Marshall guys did with Blackstar.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby narcoman » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:56 pm

I'm going for fully enclosed within PT 11.

Bladder is right though.... avid are cash focused and looking at exit strategies for the top brass....
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby narcoman » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:00 pm

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BJG145 wrote:Given that Avid's vice-president announced that the company was "deeply committed to developing Sibelius" just two weeks ago, that sounds unlikely.

http://community.avid.com/blogs/avid/archive/2012/07/23/avids-commitment-to-sibelius.aspx?CommentPosted=true#

The statement in that link is a good example of marketing and management bluff.
No where in that statement does it say that Sibelius has a secure future.
It almost implies it might be merged into something else, but as usual in these PR things, nothing is clear.
It's a bit like the Prime Minister saying "Mr/Mrs X has my full support" after Mr/MrsX has been accused of some dodgy going ons. Usually there's a resignation along in a few days!

It very specifically does. Whether or not it's true of course remains t'be seen
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby The Red Bladder » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:51 pm

narcoman wrote:avid are cash focused and looking at exit strategies for the top brass....

Depends what you mean by the top brass. The CEO and his crew are pretty interchangeable. The owners want to get their money's worth and that will be within the incredible collection of IP and how one realises the value of that IP.

The problems are that Avid is losing market share in a market that is declining anyway.

For the quarter ended June 30 (Q2), Avid missed expectations on earnings per share. Compared to the prior-year quarter, revenue shrank slightly and loss per share increased. Gross margins shrank and net margins shrank. Avid Technology reported revenue of $157.4 million. Sales were 2.4% lower than the prior-year quarter's $161.3 million.

It is caught between giants Adobe and Apple on the one side and small and agile companies like Cockos and Prosonus on the other, with the budget market for media creation slipping out of their hands and the pro market going into hands that are using disruptive technology - and that SUCs, i.e. they are using packages that are Small, Unimportant and Cheap.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby tex » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:44 pm

I understand the Red Bladder's post completely. With a little nerve it's easier to become a millionaire than to live on the breadline.
A litle knowledge sure is a dangerous thing. But not for the guy who has the knowledge.

I'm going out to make some money out of you guys. :bouncy:
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby 4TrackMadman » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:37 pm

The Red Bladder wrote:
narcoman wrote:avid are cash focused and looking at exit strategies for the top brass....

Depends what you mean by the top brass. The CEO and his crew are pretty interchangeable. The owners want to get their money's worth and that will be within the incredible collection of IP and how one realises the value of that IP.

The problems are that Avid is losing market share in a market that is declining anyway.

For the quarter ended June 30 (Q2), Avid missed expectations on earnings per share. Compared to the prior-year quarter, revenue shrank slightly and loss per share increased. Gross margins shrank and net margins shrank. Avid Technology reported revenue of The Red Bladder57.4 million. Sales were 2.4% lower than the prior-year quarter's The Red Bladder61.3 million.

It is caught between giants Adobe and Apple on the one side and small and agile companies like Cockos and Prosonus on the other, with the budget market for media creation slipping out of their hands and the pro market going into hands that are using disruptive technology - and that SUCs, i.e. they are using packages that are Small, Unimportant and Cheap.

Especially considering that they also abandoned the hardware approach for their Pro market. At least while they kept us locked with the hardware (our studio had to spend $16,000 just so we can run barebones Pro Tools 6.5) we were loyal customers whether we liked it or not. Avid is make huge headway on venue mixers though, so I wouldn't say they're doing bad. All the venues in town are upgrading to their mixing a light systems lately so that must be where the money is.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby Exalted Wombat » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:24 am

4TrackMadman wrote:Who is stopping the Finns from doing another, better app?

That is what ex-Cubase guys did with PreSonus Studio One and ex-Marshall guys did with Blackstar.

Too old, not hungry enough.
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Re: Save Sibelius campaign

Postby Guest » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:36 am

I just saw that Finale Notepad is free now (has been since February) http://www.finalemusic.com/notepad/default.aspx

Just saying.
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