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Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:15 am
by DavyP
I downloaded the demo of this, played about with it and with a rush of blood to the head bought it.

So in a rare departure away from hardware only music I sat down created a few sounds, tweaked a few presets and came up with a song.

https://youtu.be/LBGdfX-w1Hg

The only sounds that are not massive X are one of the Kicks and the hats.

It was a bit strange making sounds on the computer with no knobs to twiddle but it's a suprisingly powerful bit of software. I've an iMac which ran the software pretty well as I had a number of tracks with massive x open at the same time.

Wouldn't fancy using it on a laptop though as I think things would soon get bogged down pretty quickly.

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:49 am
by Martin Walker
Hi Davy,

Yeah, it's a might piece of software, and I know a lot of electronic musicians use NI stuff exclusively 'in the box' for their music-making.

I agree with you that I wouldn't fancy running it on a laptop (although I'm sure again that many people must do this.

I've moved over to a hybrid approach, since I still like having some hardware synths around, but combine their output with softsynths.

It's just another way of working really.


Martin

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:41 am
by DavyP
Martin Walker wrote:Hi Davy,

Yeah, it's a might piece of software, and I know a lot of electronic musicians use NI stuff exclusively 'in the box' for their music-making.

I agree with you that I wouldn't fancy running it on a laptop (although I'm sure again that many people must do this.

I've moved over to a hybrid approach, since I still like having some hardware synths around, but combine their output with softsynths.

It's just another way of working really.


Martin

I enjoyed sitting down to make the sounds but missed the knobs!!! And I spent ages just making one sound due to the wealth of options. I'm trying to talk myself out of a Komplete Kontrol Keyboard to get the knobs but don't know how that will work out.

I think now I'm also going to take a more hybrid approach as I'd like to do more complete songs and make it about the music more. I've done a ton of gear demo's and even requests and learnt quite a bit so I'm going to have some me time and maybe make an EP or Album for Bandcamp. Don't care if anyone buys it, it's more for the sense of satisfaction. :D

Though right now I've just sat down with an (early) glass of wine and Augusts Sound on Sound :)

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:54 pm
by blinddrew
Given your prodigious work rate, I'm sure you've got time to get a track or two into the SOS album? :)

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:27 pm
by DavyP
blinddrew wrote:Given your prodigious work rate, I'm sure you've got time to get a track or two into the SOS album? :)

I haven't heard of this SOS album, point me in the direction of the thread as I'm up for it and will put in my best of best effort to help create it, though I've listened to a lot of the music on here so hope I can offer something worthwhile and up to the high standards :thumbup:

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:46 pm
by Martin Walker
Here you go Davy:

Poll: Putting together a forum album

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 28&t=65979

Enjoy!


Martin

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:38 pm
by DavyP
Martin Walker wrote:Here you go Davy:

Poll: Putting together a forum album

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 28&t=65979

Enjoy!


Martin

Thanks Martin, it's kind of surreal talking to you as I grew up playing Hunters Moon and listening to your C64 tunes! Strange times!

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:43 pm
by Martin Walker
Ha - thanks for the reminder of those dim and distant days ;)

Did you know a Remastered version of Hunter's Moon was created in 2018?

https://thalamusdigital.itch.io/hunters-moon-remastered


Martin

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:13 am
by DavyP
Martin Walker wrote:Hi Davy,

Yeah, it's a might piece of software, and I know a lot of electronic musicians use NI stuff exclusively 'in the box' for their music-making.

I agree with you that I wouldn't fancy running it on a laptop (although I'm sure again that many people must do this.

I've moved over to a hybrid approach, since I still like having some hardware synths around, but combine their output with softsynths.

It's just another way of working really.


Martin

Further to my last reply I just bought Arturia V Collection 7, having tried the demo for 3 days, sounds great, especially the Sem. Going to grab a NI S61 Controller for it.

Had to sell some stuff though as my wife has given me grief for all my purchases lately :D

So flogging the Behringer Deepmind 12, Neutron and Boog D as I have those sounds covered more than several times over with other synths.

Hadn't really paid attention to VST's for years but some of that Arturia stuff really nails the sound and I've took a ton of fun out of the V Collection, but need the controller as I miss the Knobs!

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:29 am
by IAA
I’ve had the v collection since v5, but it’s current version is easily the best. It’s got some good and very good emulations. The CMI and synclavier are amongst my faves, particularly using my own Samples. Whilst there are some who can pick a real minimoog from the minimoog v in a mix, i can’t tell mine apart on most sounds and my audience (my lovely wife) certainly can’t. She said, quite seriously, if you can get all those synths for £200, and they sound like the real thing, why do you need all these others here (pointing at my lovely hardware)...

Hmmm

:D

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:38 pm
by DavyP
IAA wrote:I’ve had the v collection since v5, but it’s current version is easily the best. It’s got some good and very good emulations. The CMI and synclavier are amongst my faves, particularly using my own Samples. Whilst there are some who can pick a real minimoog from the minimoog v in a mix, i can’t tell mine apart on most sounds and my audience (my lovely wife) certainly can’t. She said, quite seriously, if you can get all those synths for £200, and they sound like the real thing, why do you need all these others here (pointing at my lovely hardware)...

Hmmm

:D

Ha ha, that's the wife for you. Mines an accountant so it's hard to get anything by her :)
I managed to sell all my Behringer gear in a couple of hours via local ads so am good to go for the Komplete Kontrol keyboard. Been playing about this afternoon with the Mono Station and Arturia Sem v2 sequenced via the Squarp Pyramid and percussion from the Techno system. No latency which is good.

Too hot to turn the Moog on today, you don't need heating when that gets going!!!!

I have to say though I did have latency with Massive X and external gear, I think that may have been because I was trying to sequence 5 separate Massive X tracks at once :D

But I have enjoyed the V Collection, it was a pleasant suprise as I haven't touched VSTs for years.

I think most people would struggle to tell the difference. The Sem sounds spot on to me, I really like it. :thumbup:

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:59 pm
by scw
Enjoyed the track and video! It prompted me to download the software.

I have Komplete 12 Ultimate so I was able to get Massive X free on its release. Unfortunately I can't run it because of this:

"MASSIVE X requires an AVX-compatible CPU to run"

No loss to me as I didn't buy the software but I thought I'd highlight this for anyone with an older CPU that doesn't support AVX before they buy this software.

My processor is a very capable Intel i7 which is otherwise fine for all my other needs. Prior to this I'd never heard of AVX. Every days a school day. :)

Stewart

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:28 am
by DavyP
scw wrote:Enjoyed the track and video! It prompted me to download the software.

I have Komplete 12 Ultimate so I was able to get Massive X free on its release. Unfortunately I can't run it because of this:

"MASSIVE X requires an AVX-compatible CPU to run"

No loss to me as I didn't buy the software but I thought I'd highlight this for anyone with an older CPU that doesn't support AVX before they buy this software.

My processor is a very capable Intel i7 which is otherwise fine for all my other needs. Prior to this I'd never heard of AVX. Every days a school day. :)

Stewart

Thanks for that Stewart

Sometimes I show my songs to my wife, she listens for about 30 seconds, mutters a bit to show vague interest and heads off. This was the first one she watched to the end because of the video. The actual video is 20 minutes long and you get to see the wee man in it grow. I sat and watched it all while editing, kind of hypnotic!

Regarding AVX, that's the problem with VST's when they need more processing power or don't support your current OS. I hadn't heard of AVX either. :?:

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:28 am
by DavyP
https://youtu.be/lS4_eSJrjuI

After lots of fannying around and having fun tweaking with the Arturia V collection I finally managed to put something together. Kept it minimal. :)

Re: Massive X

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:33 pm
by redlester
You might find this an interesting video. A comparison of several plug-in Minimoog emulations, including the Arturia.

https://youtu.be/S1h07ws--CM


Check out his other videos as well, some excellent stuff. Here is a similar one on the Jupiter 8.

https://youtu.be/vyboM9fxSBY

Think my own personal favourite is the Arturia Moog Modular, which I think sounds fantastic. I just wish I had the time to sit down and learn it properly!