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Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Mick DuBollî » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Hi folks,

I'm finally looking to move on from my first interface - an original MOTU Ultralite. I've had a couple of others over the years but sold them on as they had repeated driver issues, whereas the MOTU has never given me a seconds grief.

Given that driver reliability is such a deciding factor for me (I just can't be dealing with that) I had been leaning towards RME. But looking at some of Antelopes newer interfaces with DSP, free plugins and the ability to use the unit as a DSP accelerator during mixdown, these are ringing bells for me too.

But I'm wondering if anyone can share their experience of Antelope driver stability?

Thanks in advance,
Mick.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Sam Inglis » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:28 pm

Antelope's hardware has always been excellent. There have been times when the quality of their software and drivers hasn't always quite matched up to that, but it's a bit of a moving target. I've had stability issues with their interfaces in the past, but the Orion HD I reviewed recently was pretty robust, so it may well be they now have those issues sorted. Likewise, their control panel software used to be quite confusing and counter-intuitive, but it seems a lot more logical now.

If the feature set appeals to you -- and they do offer excellent audio quality at very competitive prices -- I'd probably arrange to get one on trial for a couple of weeks. That would be long enough to find any major issues, and to decide whether you get on with their control panel software and support team.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Mick DuBollî » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:02 pm

Thanks for that Sam. Trying one out would of course be ideal, but it's often a problem in Ireland given the size of the market- Antelope don't even have any Irish dealers listed on their website.

But this is not exactly an imminent purchase, hopefully I'll get some more opinions from owners before I make a decision.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby n o i s e f l e ur » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:36 am

The solution I see most often mentioned WRT the stability / reliability of Antelope drivers is to run their converters into RME gear (MADI). I think you can still connect to the AA via USB to control the DSP, settings etc.

Not a cheap solution by any means, probably wiping out most if not all savings expected from choosing Antelope - but it has upside in that you've effectively decoupled the driver efficiency / stability / reliability concern from the sonic characteristics of whatever converters you end up with.

Another way to go would be to invest in the RME MADI interface but hook up some lesser converters (like say, Ferrofish?) until you could afford better? Presuming a spend on the more expensive PCIe MADI stuff there, but also worth considering would be the Digiface Dante, which is USB3, has MADI and gets you on the ladder for audio networking in the studio.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Mick DuBollî » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Thanks for the reply noisefleur, some interesting thoughts there, but as you said, it's not a cheap solution- it'd be multiples of what I've budgeted.

Also, I'm really looking for an all-in-one compact solution. I move around a lot and need a system I can bring with me.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby fatbenelton » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:04 pm

I've been looking at this very interface as I could do with the 32 analogue out to my new summing mixer. Like you I am worried about drivers and stability. Having looked extensively over the last month or so, the Antelope driver horror stories do seem to be becoming more historical and there is a growing number of users confirming all well (or much better!) with more recent products.
Good feedback for those on Mac and thunderbolt especially.

I don't have one yet so that's purely anecdotal evidence!
I'm also considering a Focusrite Red 16 line.

If I didn't have 40 ins on the summing mixer I'd defo look at RME or even Apogee seeing as I'm on Mac. For the money though, the Antelope does seem incredible value.

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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Joe Adhemar » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:55 pm

I've been battling with the Discrete 8 Synergy Core. It's a great bit of kit but there's one or two frustrating issues.
1) The Interface requires you to log in with it's App each time if you want to use the mixer. Often the Audio Interface is not 'recognised' by the App so you have to reselect it in the App. Not a biggie but a consistent pain in the ......
2) More frustrating is that the Guitar Cabinet DSP effects that come bundled with it don't work. All the compressors and PreAmps etc are fine but when I select one of the Guitar Cabinets they emit a monitor wrecking wasp in a canyon sound that is not healthy at all for your speakers. So 8 of my 36 bundled effects are obsolete for the moment.

I'm using a Mavericks iMac 2019 using Thunderbolt 2.

So, if you want a steep learning curve with a new interface, then Antelope are definitely providing a complex bit of kit to learn. Hopefully they will iron out these bugs. But it definitely has bugs. Reading other forums it seems like they're a little overwhelmed in Support trying to get to the bottom of them.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Iokanaan999 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:56 pm

Sam Inglis wrote:If the feature set appeals to you -- and they do offer excellent audio quality at very competitive prices -- I'd probably arrange to get one on trial for a couple of weeks. That would be long enough to find any major issues, and to decide whether you get on with their control panel software and support team.

Sam, if you have the occasion to do so - try the Antelope for a couple of weeks and give us a feedback - , it would be very nice. I am actually thinking about buying maybe an Orion Synergy Core interface from Antelope, but I will need to bring it on stage so I need an solid and almost irreproachable stability. I was thinking about buying an RME by default because it seems to be a reference in driver stability, but the overall Antelope product (and the price) seems quite more appealing to me. Therefore, a report from you about this topic after some extensive use would be really quite appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby James Perrett » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:40 pm

Have you seen Sam's review in the magazine of the earlier version?

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/an ... o-orion-32

There's also a review of the Orion Synergy Core at

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/an ... nergy-core
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Sam Inglis » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:42 pm

As luck would have it I have just taken delivery of a Zen Tour Synergy Core, so expect an up to date review soon!

(I think all the Antelope interfaces use basically the same FPGA, drivers and control panel software.)
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Re: Antelope Audio Driver Reliability

Postby Dave Rowles » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:18 pm

Just a devil's advocate here, and only because I've heard good things about it from friends who have it, have you thought about the Slate Digital VRS8?

Another interface I'd love to have a SOS review of while I build up the funds to push the button on 8input interface upgrade.
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