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Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:33 pm
by N i g e l
Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51413724

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:10 pm
by desmond
I have the same take as John Gruber:-

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2020/ ... ance-apple

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:13 pm
by Martin Walker
desmond wrote:I have the same take as John Gruber:-

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2020/ ... ance-apple

Yep, I saw this fact reported as fining Apple equivalent to just 55 minutes of their profits :headbang:


Martin

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:34 pm
by ManFromGlass
It would be a great source of amusement if I was able to figure out what 55 minutes of my profits was. :mrgreen:

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:51 pm
by Watchmaker
at least Jobs taught them meaningful ROI tactics. A shining example of Capitalism at its finest. <genuflects>

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:25 am
by Eddy Deegan
Reminds me of something I saw a while back. I can't recall the exact wording, nor am I able to attribute it, but I'll paraphrase:

"Fines are a mechanism to make some laws optional for the rich".

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:15 pm
by CS70
Eddy Deegan wrote:Reminds me of something I saw a while back. I can't recall the exact wording, nor am I able to attribute it, but I'll paraphrase:

"Fines are a mechanism to make some laws optional for the rich".

Not just the rich :-) It is a (now) well known effect that, contrary to intuition, trying to incentivize a behavior by putting a fine on the opposite one tends to backfire spectacularly..

Think it was in Freakonomics that the authors described how fining people for picking up children later at preschool ended up increasing the amount of late pick-ups rather than reducing it.

The way fines would work is to set 'em so disproportionate, that it'd become unacceptable in a non-authoritarian society.

The issue with Apple's hideous behaviors (not that they are the only ones) - such as designing for obsolescence and purposely creating not easily repairable designs, not to mention overpriced with respect to the functionality they offer - is not in the fact that they are rich.. is in the fact that load of people keep buyin' them nonetheless, making it rich. :)

Re: Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:47 pm
by blinddrew
"You can't legislate for stupid." ;)


P.S. for the avoidance of doubt, I don't really think all Apple customers are stupid (hence the smiley face), it just seemed an appropriate moment for a quote I rather like.