Pete Kaine wrote:Well I was going to try and keep away from this, but seeing as Vin's being called out and Sam is being questioned...
Pete, nobody's called Vin out here and Sam's review was certainly not being questioned (unless kudos have now become questions?). I was merely disagreeing about whether Roland develop in-house or buy-in.
You trying to stir up trouble or something? :tongue:
Now, if you have a Roland AI about, you could pop the lid to see whether there's any XMOS or other 3rd party chip in there (sorry, my VS-20 is packed away at the mo else I'd oblige).
Pete Kaine wrote:Goddard wrote:
Perhaps Roland should seriously consider their participation now in view of Sam Inglis' assessment of the touted "industry-leading low latency USB performance" of their newest Studio Capture interface in the current issue of SOS.
Kudos to Sam and SOS for telling it like it really is (er, isn't?)!
Which issue no. is that exactly, I don't see it in the one in front of me and I'd really like to read it right now!
Sam's Studio Capture review
Pete Kaine wrote:Goddard wrote:Something is nagging at me about all this. Roland certainly know how to design USB interfaces (iirc they were the first out with USB1 and USB2 interfaces) and have the resources and expertise for firmware and driver development.
I'd contest every statement you made in that sentence. Their drivers on everything I've had my hands on have under performed to the point of being unusable. I've an open case that's been going on for 3/4 months now where their Japan support has buck passed and failed to resolve it time after time.
Uk support is superb, but if you hit a problem that requires Japan to fix it, you can go whistle.
Hey, you calling me out? :tongue:
Well, iirc they were very early out (if not the first ones out) with a USB1 interface (with onboard dsp fx to boot) back when, and also with a USB2 model. But that's not really relevant other than to suggest they did their own development rather than wait for a 3rd party solution to become available.
What's nagging at me is the feeling that Roland should still be capable of producing exemplary gear (and I've a good bit of their stuff boxed up for a move), and yet they apparently haven't. I certainly appreciate that they've kept up driver support for my long-OOP MIDI interface and not just for current production gear, but it's worrisome when development for high end gear like the VS-700 appears to have been dropped or at best put on the back burner and not kept pace with the Sonar platform for which it was designed.
Hearing of open cases going unresolved is troubling. Reminds me of the brouhaha with their Sonic Cell VST editor and VST3 a while back. Perhaps the folks in Hamamatsu are backlogged.
Pete Kaine wrote:TAFKAT wrote:
Its all inconsequential whether Roland use 3rd party or do in house, IMO, its all in the delivery or lack there of.
Agreed, what bits get used is not really important, merely of passing academic interest as perhaps indicative of development expertise and resources. Don't really care about who made the pudding, only how tasty it proves to be...