Don Chishiotte wrote:First of all: dont even THINK about anti-depressants.
They are not,and never will be,your solution to your problems.
No matter what people say about it,really,forget aboout anti depressants,I am not going to enlist reasons why,but this will suffice:they will likely harm you,in the meantime your problems are still there. Drugs are always your lie.
They are drugs,even when the doctors say 'no no,you will not become dependant on them'. Leave them alone. They are full of cr...
You want to face your problems and not lies,said by you or others. You want to know yourself.
Only by doing that you will start to get somewhere.
This is an age-old debate with strong positions held by both sides. I respect your point of view, as like me you are obviously talking from considerable experience, but I disagree about the drugs.
I think you have a valid point that if a person JUST relies on drugs, and doesn't do the psychological work necessary to really change their thinking habits, any improvement is likely to be temporary and to fade as soon as the drugs are stopped. It is scandalous, in this respect, that so many GPs will just suggest a course of anti-depressants without even stopping to look at the underlying problems.
However, that's not the only way drugs can be used, and it's not the way they should be used. Any really responsible GP, psychiatrist or psychologist will recommend antidepressants only as ONE PART of a total solution, in combination with whatever form of therapy is appropriate and works for the patient.
In my case, I went on antidepressants about six months after I started psychotherapy, after discussing the pros and cons in detail with my therapist, took them for just over a year, phased them out over about three months, then continued with the therapy. They helped enormously.
What you have to remember is that one of the strongest players in this drama is habit. You can sort things out until you know exactly what you're doing wrong, and exactly what you should be doing right, and then STILL get up each day and do the same things wrong. This can then become self-perpetuating because you end up "beating yourself over the head" about it - you actually feel WORSE because not only do you have the negative patterns, but you're a hopeless and powerless person for not being able to change them.
Habit is incredibly strong, and one of the things antidepressants can to is "suspend" negative habits of thought and behaviour.
Now this is where the combination with therapy comes in. What's crucial is that WHILE the negative habits are suspended, you work your arse off putting positive ones in their place. You need to really know, before taking the tablets, what it is you're trying to achieve, and be damn sure you give it everything you've got, realising and anticipating that it's going to be hard to hang onto once you're off them.
For me, it worked. And just to take the point further - I was on Seroxat, the one that's causing all the uproar in the USA (under some other brand name) with people taking it and apparently going loony and committing mass murder, getting horribly addicted and stuff! That story didn't break until after I'd come off them, of course.
One thing I do find when talking to other victims of depression is that a remarkable number of people take these things and completely ignore the very clear warnings about how they should be taken. In particular, your withdrawal MUST be gradual, and overseen carefully by a health professional. I took a gradually reduced dosed over a matter of months, all the time monitoring things with the help of my therapist, and had no problems.
Just one thing: don't EVER take cannabis while on this stuff. But that's a story for another time . . . :shock: