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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby ezza » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:13 am

Or, indeed... and better still... image you drive and restore from that.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby t_track » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:34 am

Logged in after many years of just browsing this forum to +1.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby feline1 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:23 am

ef37a wrote:

Really? Not the impressive I have got. So, I have ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO FEAR INSTALLING W10 ON THIS LAPPY?

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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby The Elf » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:37 am

feline1 wrote:
ef37a wrote:

Really? Not the impressive I have got. So, I have ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO FEAR INSTALLING W10 ON THIS LAPPY?

Dave.

Nothing to fear except fear itself... :angel:
...and tigers, obviously... :D
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby ef37a » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:49 am

The Elf wrote:
feline1 wrote:
ef37a wrote:

Really? Not the impressive I have got. So, I have ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO FEAR INSTALLING W10 ON THIS LAPPY?

Dave.

Nothing to fear except fear itself... :angel:
...and tigers, obviously... :D

Well, thank you for those well reasoned, well presented replies!

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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby zenguitar » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:34 pm

The Elf wrote:
feline1 wrote:
ef37a wrote:

Really? Not the impressive I have got. So, I have ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO FEAR INSTALLING W10 ON THIS LAPPY?

Dave.

Nothing to fear except fear itself... :angel:
...and tigers, obviously... :D
... sharks too :D

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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby alexis » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:16 pm

Dear Mods/Masters of the Universe :) ... wondering if a link to Robin Vincent's excellent article (referenced in the OP) might be well-placed as a sticky at least for a while?
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby zenguitar » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:32 pm

As the first post contains the link, easier to make this thread sticky.

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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Wonks » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:59 pm

Everyone's forgetting large hairy spiders that are running towards you...
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby OneWorld » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:03 pm

The Elf wrote:
feline1 wrote:
ef37a wrote:

Really? Not the impressive I have got. So, I have ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO FEAR INSTALLING W10 ON THIS LAPPY?

Dave.

Nothing to fear except fear itself... :angel:
...and tigers, obviously... :D

Is this why Apple names its OSs after big cats, to imbue us with fear!
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby CS70 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:01 pm

robinv wrote: <a href="/sos/nov15/articles/windows10.htm" target="_blank">http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov15/articles/windows10.htm</a>

I hope this article might be useful to some people here. I put a lot of time into getting the information right and speaking to the right people at Microsoft about it. Solid information can be hard to find so hopefully this is helpful to the conversation.

Cheers
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Since nobody seems to have said it (but I'm sure everyone thinks it ): well done, very good article and it is actually convincing me to give W10 a try (on my new build, not on the laptop).

Great job.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby awjoe » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:12 am

I don't think I know how to do it. What drivers do I need to make sure about? Interface, check. Video monitor will be taken care of automatically? What else? Will plugins that run on Win 7 run on Win 10? I hate this stuff cuz I don't understand it, but I think I'm going to do it.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby ef37a » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:05 am

I now have W10 on the "second best" music PC. Bit of a long winded process but no glitches.

A day or so ago I downloaded (on a W7 machine!) the W10 drivers for my NI KA6 and burned them to a DVD. Finding "Computer" in 10 was tricky but then I found the DVD drive and ran the drivers.

No sweat, just did the bizz and on connecting the AI it was found and worked straight off the bat. I then left it running all day on Radio 3 and it never missed a beat. After about 3 hours there was a "ClangWhooshe" sort of sound. I found "Banner Sounds" and turned them all off. No more clang.

I find ten bloody awful to be frank, almost nothing is the same or where it was in 7 and this PC will hardly ever be used except for curiosity. I shall certainly resist putting what someone descried as "Windows 7 with a tablet bolted on" on any of my other computers.

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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Lostfollicles » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:21 pm

Hi guys! I wanted to start a new thread but not sure of how to do that so apologies for tramping on anyone's feet!

There have been many discussions regarding Win 10 upgrades and possible future problems with Win 10 drivers supporting "Or not" hardware "Old and new" etc...etc... Indeed I had many problems with my Line 6 UX2 when I tried Win 7 on a new hard drive on my old Asus P4P800 as the UX2 would simply not work properly! The Asus P4 MB not good enough to run sataII drive it seemed or run Win 7 without seriously slowing down just about everything making it a total pain to use, so I have relegated that computer to stay on XP which runs flawlessly-ish!
One of the questions I want to ask you guys is: - Is there a non bloated version of Win 10 available??
I only want to use my computer as a DAW music making device, of course all software has to have an OS but I really don't want all the usual bloat and resource using windows crap that normally go's with an windows install!
Also recently I have been trying to investigate and source all the relevant information for building a new Audio work station that will run my favored DAW Sonar X3 and any USB audio interface that will work with windows!? I will of course be trying to use my UX2, however! As I said above it wasn't until I started to research all the new hardware that's available today that I am now well and truly perplexed! I have tried in vane to find any relevant information regarding the strengths or weaknesses of the now it seems favored for gaming Z99 or Z170 motherboards let alone the different Quad or Octa CPU's! I am now in a state of total stagnation computer build wise as I don't know which way to turn :frown: Help!!
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby ef37a » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:22 pm

Felicitations of the season L and welcome.

Now I am only the merest dabbler here but...That Line 6 has W7 (and W10) drivers listed so I suspect there is some other reason you could not get it to work with 7. Others here will surely have some ideas.

As well as this esteemed emporium I have infested at least two other recording forums for many years and cannot recall anyone having a problem with that AI and W7.That is not to say there has never BEEN a problem, just that it is not at all common AFAIK.

As for a new build? You will surely have advice from Olympus in the form of Pete (Scan) and Martin but it seems to this mere mortal that there are very few problems involved these days? I would look for a MOBO with plenty of USB 3 and especially USB 3.1 capability, i5 or i7 CPU, SSD main HDD and a 2TB or bigger spinner for backup. Much depends on what you need/want to do? Easy to go way overboard when all you have is a mic and a guitar!

But then I am just a V old valve jockey.

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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Wonks » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:17 pm

Win 10 does install a lot of stuff by default, though most of it is pretty easy to uninstall again. It's also easier than ever to decide what gets loaded on start-up, so you only have running what you really need to.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Exalted Wombat » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:47 pm

Wonks wrote:Win 10 does install a lot of stuff by default, though most of it is pretty easy to uninstall again. It's also easier than ever to decide what gets loaded on start-up, so you only have running what you really need to.

Out of interest, what have you uninstalled from your Windows 10 setup? Did it make any perceptable difference?
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Wonks » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:42 pm

Some of the apps like maps, news, finance etc. On a fast machine like mine, I don't really think it makes much difference. But the less there is, the less there is to start doing stuff like updating in the background.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Exalted Wombat » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:53 pm

Do the apps on the "dark side" auto-run then? I thought they were simple run-when-asked-for program.

I agree, the downside of Windows 10 is all this auto-update malarky. Though I'm not sure it's much different to what responsible Windows 7/8 users did anyway.
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Re: Windows 10 for musicians SOS article

Postby Atinshola » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:07 pm

Quick question (ok, longwinded question):
I've heard that there is a 30-day limit for rolling back to Win7/8 - does this mean that if I install Win10 over my Win7 install and then do a clean Win10 install, and after say, 6 weeks, decide it's not for me and want to go back to Win7/8, I cannot do so, even by doing a clean install with my original (and legal) Win7/8 dvd?

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