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Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby tc99 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:23 pm

According to the SOS article from some time ago the max recommended length for Firewire cables is 4.5m. I wonder has anyone used a 10 metre cable . . there are a couple on ebay, so maybe it is possible. In the same article it recommended max length of USB to be 5m, and i have used 10 metre, so maybe longer the length is possible with Firewire
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:01 pm

Hi tc99!

I suspect that could be my Hardware Safety Guidelines For The PC Musician way back in SOS October 2005:

https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... c-musician

Thankfully such information doesn't get outdated - as I said there " the maximum recommended lengths for Firewire digital cables is 4.5 metres" so you can certainly try a longer one.

There are just no guarantees that this will work reliably, although it may be fine in your application - fingers crossed! :beamup:


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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:26 pm

We used to run a large format printer on a fifteen meter FW cable.

For something more fussy than a printer, you might want to use a fW hub with two 5m cables
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby James Perrett » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:03 pm

Didn't Max used to recommend a 10m cable from Lindy (or am I thinking of something else...)?
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:55 pm

James Perrett wrote:Didn't Max used to recommend a 10m cable from Lindy (or am I thinking of something else...)?

I seem to remember that too
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby ef37a » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:24 am

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-FireWire ... B000I2JVDM

^ But not exactly cheap and I assume you just need one plus another 5mtr passive to get 9.5mtr?

FWIIW I found my KA6 would work fine on two 5mtr USB 2.0 cables with one PC but with only ONE of the two with another PC, things can get sticky at limits.

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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:40 pm

ef37a wrote:FWIIW I found my KA6 would work fine on two 5mtr USB 2.0 cables with one PC but with only ONE of the two with another PC, things can get sticky at limits.

Exactly Dave - that's what I was alluding to in my above comment about 'no guarantees' ;)


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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby lost track » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:25 pm

Not a 10m cable, but a this extender works near-flawlessly on my RME fireface 800. I saw near flawlessly as I remember having to reset it a couple of times. But mostly, a peach.

http://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-firewire-c4/firewire-extenders-repeaters-c242/cat5-firewire-extender-up-to-75m-p483

Careful as sometimes running shorter than 10m will make it less reliable. Stick within the guidelines. Cat5e cable is cheap if you ever decide to run it longer
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby lost track » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:27 pm

lost track wrote:Not a 10m cable, but a this extender works near-flawlessly on my RME fireface 800. I saw near flawlessly as I remember having to reset it a couple of times. But mostly, a peach.

http://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-firewire-c4/firewire-extenders-repeaters-c242/cat5-firewire-extender-up-to-75m-p483

Careful as sometimes running shorter than 10m will make it less reliable. Stick within the guidelines. Cat5e cable is cheap if you ever decide to run it longer

Oh, just noticed the price. I must have got a deal... I must have!
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby blinddrew » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:52 pm

:o
I hope you've got that listed separately on your insurance! ;)
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby OneWorld » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:55 pm

At that length I think it would more likely to be referred to a candlewire!
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby tc99 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:10 am

thankyou everyone

yes Martin that was the article i read. i think i'll just have to give it a go, and see what happens. I think that CATS extender is a bit of overkill for what i want
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby Studio Support Gnome » Sat May 26, 2018 12:23 am

Lindy used to do 5, 7.5 and 10m variants.... they might still for all i know.... suffice to say i have several, and they still work, a decade after i bought them.


used them in many many installs, never a single problem with them, except when abused by putting heavy furniture edges on them.... and even then, survived better than most....
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Re: Has anyone succesfully used a 10 metre Firewire cable

Postby Uncle Freddie » Sat May 26, 2018 1:50 am

tc99 wrote:According to the SOS article from some time ago the max recommended length for Firewire cables is 4.5m. I wonder has anyone used a 10 metre cable . . there are a couple on ebay, so maybe it is possible. In the same article it recommended max length of USB to be 5m, and i have used 10 metre, so maybe longer the length is possible with Firewire

I have not, but if I needed a 10m Firewire cable, I would not trust an average computer retail cable; instead I would go straight to Granite Digital for one. I've been using their Firewire cables for 20 years and I have maybe 2 dozen of them. They're thick and have ferrite cores on both ends. Looks like they have a 10m (32 foot) length in both Firewire 400 and 800 formats:

http://www.granitedigital.com/firewire1 ... ables.aspx
http://www.granitedigital.com/firewire1 ... ables.aspx
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