(My IT days past decade earlier 2008).
Yes you can stop reading now.
This mini itx caught my eye.
https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... 20&t=63862
Ahkatootin wrote:Hi people,
I'm thinking of using the 9800X on an ASRock Intel Core-X X299E Mini ITX Motherboard with 64GB of DDR4 SODIMM RAM; 3x NVMe PCIe SSD
I purchased mini Itx
X99 Asrock Intel mini itx
to put i7-5820k 6c/12t 140W 3.3-3.6GHz
Xeon 2670v3 12c/24t 120W 2.3-3.1GHz
Considered x299 Asrock Intel mini itx
with its crazy 3*M.2 ports in a 6.7*6.7inch Motherboard ! + supports Intel Optane.
Decided against both these.
Poor integrated graphics in Intel.
Overly expensive Intel processors.
Requires larger cooling at 140W 120W along with Larger Case.
# I far prefer Ryzen7 1700 65W 8c/12t 3.0-3.7GHz £145 for Mini Itx.
Intel LGA1151 mini itx AsrockH110M Motherboard I purchased for usff (utra small form factor) case
Poor integrated graphics Intel.
Limited choice Intel processors due to high Wattages when in usff case.
Overly expensive Intel processors.
# AMD Ryzen 65W far better Mini Itx for me.
I properly considered
# Asrock Intel LGA1151 DeskMini110, DeskMini130
barebones takes 65W Desktop Intel
(Not neutered Intel Nuc, Gigabyte Brix : T series Intel U series).
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock- ... i-stx-1151
Smaller STX Motherboard inside.
Just 4 USB ports, poor onboard graphics, limited to i5 65W decided against.
# ASRock Deskmini Z370 GTX 1060 6GB £550 barebones
Superb graphics but just 4USB ports.
# Just announced ASRock Deskmini Z390 GTX 1080 8GB
barebones 81.9 * 154.5 * 213 mm
even better 8USB ports, 3* M.2 PCIe3*4 storage! takes 95W 8Core Intel i9 !!
* This is the killer for top of line latest 6core MacMini.*
https://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/Des ... TX%20(Z390)/index.asp
Just add CPU + cooler, RAM dual channel, Storage.
I settled on
4c/8t 65W 3.6-3.9GHz AMD Ryzen5 2400G
with its Integrated Vega 11 Graphics
(see reviews from Hardware Unboxed, Gamers Nexus).
Ryzen 4c/8t 3.6-3.9Ghz 65W 2400g performance is as
Nvidia GT 1030, Gtx 750Ti graphics card.
I wanted keep cool in usff mini itx case :
see height next to USB stick, next to RAM, standard headphones
# Antec Isk 110 usff case with 90W external psu : 78.6*212*222
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec-i ... table-mitx
# Stock AMD cpu cooler included with Ryzen5 2400G
remove top fan shroud (cooler becomes 44mm total height)
to fit inside Antec Isk110 case.
This AMD fan is audible.
meant to be quieter.
# Motherboard AsRock Fatal1ty X370 Takes M.2 PCIe3*4
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty% ... ing-ITXac/
(BIOS update required to take this Gen2 Ryzen 2400G.
Future Ryzen 7nm in 2019 with just BIOS update.
*Looking forward to Ryzen 7nm 8c/16t with Integrated Vega 25 Graphics equivalent Gtx1060*).
# Gigabyte Ryzen AB350N mini itx Morherboard is also fine although ports are in irregular location.
Has 10Gbits/s Gen2 USB 3.1
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA ... -rev-10#kf
I have this Gigabyte Ryzen mini itx in another system for
Ryzen7 1700 8c/16t 65W 3.0-3.7Ghz
Replaces my 12c/24t Dual Xeon HP Z600 workstation.
# Newer Motherboards doesn't require BIOS update for Gen2 Ryzen.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty% ... /index.asp
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty% ... /index.asp
# X series for overclocking.
However I would Not recommend overclocking mini itx Motherboards :
insufficient power phases for overclocking;
don't have proper cooling on vrms (specifically MOSFETS)
although can purchase coolers.
*(If you want to overclock Der8auer is de Guru : youtube channel + website
Der8auer has his own professional products to aid overclocking we can purchase.
Der8auer co-designed case Lian Li 011).*
Mini Itx cases to consider
(These are 2-3*volume of Antec Isk110 I utilised).
Dan Case A4, Loque Ghost, Raijintek Ophion,
NCase M1, Cougar QBX,
Raijintek Metis Plus with top vent (original Metis doesn't have top vent),
Antec, Bitfenix, Geeek, Phanteks, Silverstone, Streacom : various models.
People are running full size Gtx 1080Ti in some of these Mini Itx cases with ATX psu, smaller SFX psu.
Provides us confidence we can assemble music, video editing, streaming Mini Itx to match Atx
*as long as we dont require several PCIe ports nor overclock.*
I would suggest Platinum rated otherwise Gold rated.
Just because something is say Corsair or Seasonic 80+ Bronze rated doesn't necessarily mean they are hunky dory.
Here is a useful list of PSU tiers.
Try to purchase tier 1 or tier 2.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/63 ... t-updated/
Do your own research
Two of the most even handed thorough YouTube channels :
Hardware Unboxed : CPU performance, Memory performance as matched to CPU as matched to Graphics cards.
Gamers Nexus aka tech jesus ;-) CEO is a ginger Cat :-) :
tests especially useful power phases on motherboards, vrm cooling, case thermals, quiet cases.
They both have taken Intel to task recently for Intel's shennigans ... water is wet.
*(I avoid Tomshardware, Anandtech).*
This is my mini itx preferences for my purposes
Your purposes are different from mine.
Nevertheless options are more aware of now anyone considering wishing to assemble mini itx.