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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby cosimo193 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:44 pm

As the crow flies, my midisport is less than 2m away from my PC, but I'm not allowed to have the wire trailing across the middle of the room :D ), so it has to go round the outside and ends up around 8m. I've got a 5m active extension and a 3m A to B cable on the end of that. Maybe I'll invest in an 8 or 10m USB cable and see what happens before buying something else.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby ef37a » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:31 pm

cosimo193 wrote:As the crow flies, my midisport is less than 2m away from my PC, but I'm not allowed to have the wire trailing across the middle of the room :D ), so it has to go round the outside and ends up around 8m. I've got a 5m active extension and a 3m A to B cable on the end of that. Maybe I'll invest in an 8 or 10m USB cable and see what happens before buying something else.
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You might consider extending the MIDI side rather than the USB?

Some years ago I was experimenting with MIDI and got it going reliably over 20mtrs of CAT 5e.

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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby cosimo193 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:11 pm

How did you wire that up? Was there 1 x cat5e cable replacing each midi cable or multiple MIDI (e.g. both directions) on per cat5e? It's a 4 x 4 and all the devices would be the other side of the room from the PC, so would need 4 ins and 4 outs.

I considered using a raspberry pi with VirtualHere to try to access the 4x4 as a remote USB, but that would be a job to get the 4x4 running on Linux from what I can see.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby ef37a » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:11 pm

cosimo193 wrote:How did you wire that up? Was there 1 x cat5e cable replacing each midi cable or multiple MIDI (e.g. both directions) on per cat5e? It's a 4 x 4 and all the devices would be the other side of the room from the PC, so would need 4 ins and 4 outs.

I considered using a raspberry pi with VirtualHere to try to access the 4x4 as a remote USB, but that would be a job to get the 4x4 running on Linux from what I can see.

Ooo! Been a while. IIRC I just soldered a DIN plug* each end of a length of CAT (I had steady hands and 2 eyes then!) Plugged one end into an EKeys 49 controller and the other end into the DIN input of a 2496 and Cubase played out faultlessly.

But then I enjoyed cobbling such things together. Not everyone does.

*Pins 4&5 don't NEED a common screen but would be a good idea for a proper installation.

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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby James Perrett » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:19 pm

I have a computer that is a similar distance away from the keyboard to yours and I use a combination of 5m MIDI cables with a 5m USB cable on a Midisport 2x2 with no problems.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby cosimo193 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:25 pm

James Perrett wrote:I have a computer that is a similar distance away from the keyboard to yours and I use a combination of 5m MIDI cables with a 5m USB cable on a Midisport 2x2 with no problems.

Interesting. I'd have to put the 4x4 on top of a 7' high bookshelf to do that, but it's a thought.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby cosimo193 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:28 pm

ef37a wrote:Ooo! Been a while. IIRC I just soldered a DIN plug* each end of a length of CAT (I had steady hands and 2 eyes then!) Plugged one end into an EKeys 49 controller and the other end into the DIN input of a 2496 and Cubase played out faultlessly.

But then I enjoyed cobbling such things together. Not everyone does.

*Pins 4&5 don't NEED a common screen but would be a good idea for a proper installation.

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Interesting. It would mean up to 8 cables round the back of my bookshelves instead of 1, but....
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby cosimo193 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:34 pm

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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby ef37a » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:23 am

cosimo193 wrote:
ef37a wrote:Ooo! Been a while. IIRC I just soldered a DIN plug* each end of a length of CAT (I had steady hands and 2 eyes then!) Plugged one end into an EKeys 49 controller and the other end into the DIN input of a 2496 and Cubase played out faultlessly.

But then I enjoyed cobbling such things together. Not everyone does.

*Pins 4&5 don't NEED a common screen but would be a good idea for a proper installation.

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Interesting. It would mean up to 8 cables round the back of my bookshelves instead of 1, but....

Well, it's a bit of work but one CAT cable can carry 4 'balanced' signals so I made 4 way DIN breakout boxes connected by RJ45 and patched using standard DIN cables each end.

I was in the network hardware industry you see so had sheds of cable and development clutter!

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