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New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby pjchappy » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:35 pm

Hoping to upgrade my PC within 6 months. What are some types of benchmarks that would indicate great DAW and VST performance? (Such as from the numerous types found here: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2019/2224)

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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby miN2 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:33 am

pjchappy wrote:Hoping to upgrade my PC within 6 months. What are some types of benchmarks that would indicate great DAW and VST performance?)

Selection of CPU's for DSP capability:
http://www.scanproaudio.info/wp-content ... P-Test.jpg

Selection for polyphony:
http://www.scanproaudio.info/wp-content ... -Chart.jpg

6 months is a somewhat long time out. I'd wait until purchase was closer and look again.
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Pete Kaine » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:32 am

Yeah, we're expecting pretty much everything on the desktop to refresh by the end of summer, you'll be better served to ask this again nearer the time.
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby pjchappy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:33 am

Thanks for the input. Scanproaudio looks like a great resource.
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:31 am

I bought a rackmount 3XS RZ390 from Scan at the start of this year to run as a DAW, couldn't be happier with it and it's effortlessly handled everything I've thrown at it (Reaper and Harrison Mixbus as DAWs, main plugins being Aether and Breeze reverbs, most of the Arturia V collection synths, Omnisphere, Replika delay, Sylenth, Diva, Waves C4 and C6 and a few other things besides).

I spec'd mine from https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator ... unt-system (I doubled the RAM to 32Gb and opted for 2 x 1Tb of SSD storage).

I've bought from Scan prior to that also, and would have no hesitation in recommending them as your vendor of choice.
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby pjchappy » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Thanks. However, I always build my PCs. This next build will be a big upgrade, but will just need motherboard, CPU and RAM (possibly splurge on a larger SSD).
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Skyline » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:55 pm

Pete Kaine wrote:Yeah, we're expecting pretty much everything on the desktop to refresh by the end of summer, you'll be better served to ask this again nearer the time.

Thanks Pete. I was about to replace my present trusty but ageing Scan 3XS. Can you give us a hint of what's coming up in summer? New Intel chipset? Cheers! ;)
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Pete Kaine » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:54 am

Only the public leaks really.

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-co ... 60165.html

Discusses Intels Comet lake, which appears to be another refresh in the mid-range at 14nm, whereas we were kinda hoping that the 10nm Icelake would finally land this year, but it appears to be getting pushed back to next. Given that we're still expecting Thunderbolt natively on Icelake (well, nothing has been said to contradict that regarding Cometlake) that delay is a little bit annoying for PC users who want the new standard as standard.

It also mentions the AMD refresh that should be due and I suspect we'll finally see the X299 replacement appear late in the year or early next, although this has been hinted as in the works for the last 6 months if you Google up X599.

The rumours are suggestion a 10 core CPU in the mid-range but without a die shrink or a package change, so I guess we'll see how warm that thing runs in due course. The X299 chips based around the same process are running cooler at similar core counts at the moment, simply because there is more dissipation surface to work with. The suggestion that the X599 chips are going to be increased in physical size means we should see them being able to cram even sillier core counts in there.
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Skyline » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:26 am

Thanks Pete, that's useful. It means I'll probably order in summer anyway; it could take too long for all the present smoke to clear by the look of it!

I'm not a 'power user' compared to some folks' needs, I just have a home studio running Studio One, Cakewalk, proprietary plugins, etc. and I don't tend to use loops or dozens of tracks. Also, I'm not one who likes to be at the bleeding edge!

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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby wireman » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:38 pm

Skyline wrote:Thanks Pete, that's useful. It means I'll probably order in summer anyway; it could take too long for all the present smoke to clear by the look of it!

I'm not a 'power user' compared to some folks' needs, I just have a home studio running Studio One, Cakewalk, proprietary plugins, etc. and I don't tend to use loops or dozens of tracks. Also, I'm not one who likes to be at the bleeding edge!

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I have switched between having PCs built (by Armari), then home builds and my son's latest PC was from Scan. They did a nice job although I was freaked out with the PC being packed to the gunnels inside with bubble wrap, at least until I realised you get anti-static bubble wrap.
Nice to have support as well, we had memory replaced after it failed and the process was quite painless.
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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:51 pm

wireman wrote:I have switched between having PCs built (by Armari), then home builds and my son's latest PC was from Scan. They did a nice job although I was freaked out with the PC being packed to the gunnels inside with bubble wrap, at least until I realised you get anti-static bubble wrap

Yep, I remember the cold feeling of fear when I initially opened my most recent machine to find all that bubblewrap carefully stuffed in, when the thought occurred to me "what if I'd simply plugged it in and switched it on without checking inside first?" :headbang: :beamup:


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Re: New PC Specs—What Benchmarks?

Postby Eddy Deegan » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:01 pm

Martin Walker wrote:
wireman wrote:I have switched between having PCs built (by Armari), then home builds and my son's latest PC was from Scan. They did a nice job although I was freaked out with the PC being packed to the gunnels inside with bubble wrap, at least until I realised you get anti-static bubble wrap

Yep, I remember the cold feeling of fear when I initially opened my most recent machine to find all that bubblewrap carefully stuffed in, when the thought occurred to me "what if I'd simply plugged it in and switched it on without checking inside first?" :headbang: :beamup:


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Mine too! But it did also come with a huge sticker on it telling me to remove the packaging inside the case first, so all in all I think one would have to be fairly dim not to do so ;)

I also understand why they do it. Some years ago, I ordered a pre-built system from Scan on behalf of a friend (not for musical purposes, just a standard desktop PC) which did not have any internal packing and by the time it arrived the CPU cooler had jiggled loose in transit which led to overheating problems. Given that couriers tend not to wear kid gloves, not to mention the vibration involved in transit in general, I think the internal packing makes sense from a practical point of view.
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