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Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby aod » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:11 am

I’m doing some composing using my new M-Audio Oxygen MIDI keyboard as the primary input device. (in Ableton Live 10)

I’d like to include some tracks that will be written for guitar but struggling to find a free VST plugin that can give me a decent sound.

To clarify, I don’t have a guitar or play guitar, but am inputting the guitar lines using a keyboard.

I’m looking for guitar sound plugin for this, but most of what I can find are either Amp simulation packages for actual recordings of guitars, or paid for plugins.

Can anyone suggest a free VST plugin/instrument that works well for making a ‘piano’ (MIDI notes) sound like a guitar?
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby resistorman » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:02 pm

You’re not likely to get a great sounding bespoke free guitar plugin, but the general midi spec calls for guitars, and if you could find a VST GM soundbank there will be one good enough for compositional purposes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby IAA » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:33 pm

you’re not likely to get a great sounding bespoke free guitar plugin
- quite agree - but the Spitfire Labs free sample sets have some interesting guitars - and suitably treated and played - brush up exceedingly nicely IMO. Unfortunately I don't work for Spitfire :D
https://labs.spitfireaudio.com
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby Eddy Deegan » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:56 pm

Not free, but a lot cheaper than some guitar amp/cab processors is Scuffham S-Gear which is currently $99.

I had cause to buy it recently as I've been doing some synth work on a guitar track that another forum member sent me a while ago (they sent me the unprocessed guitar recording as opposed to the processed version) and it does sound extremely good. The Sound On Sound review of an earlier version is at https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/scuffham-s-gear-24

Although you did want a free one, it's worth considering IMHO. There is a 10-day free trial version you can download to experiment with which might make you rethink, especially if you put some 'weedy' clean guitar-esque noises into it and hear what comes out.
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby aod » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:28 am

resistorman wrote:You’re not likely to get a great sounding bespoke free guitar plugin, but the general midi spec calls for guitars, and if you could find a VST GM soundbank there will be one good enough for compositional purposes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI

Thank you! I was trying to find how to use the GM Soundbank as I think this would have done for what I need, but it appears to be very difficult to find or activate in Ableton 10 Lite, so suppose I'm left with having to use a VST?
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby aod » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am

IAA wrote:
you’re not likely to get a great sounding bespoke free guitar plugin
- quite agree - but the Spitfire Labs free sample sets have some interesting guitars - and suitably treated and played - brush up exceedingly nicely IMO. Unfortunately I don't work for Spitfire :D
https://labs.spitfireaudio.com

I had a look at this, but couldn't really find anything suitable for my needs, but there is some nice stuff there, so thanks for the link
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby aod » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:36 am

Eddy Deegan wrote:Not free, but a lot cheaper than some guitar amp/cab processors is Scuffham S-Gear which is currently $99.

I had cause to buy it recently as I've been doing some synth work on a guitar track that another forum member sent me a while ago (they sent me the unprocessed guitar recording as opposed to the processed version) and it does sound extremely good. The Sound On Sound review of an earlier version is at https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/scuffham-s-gear-24

Although you did want a free one, it's worth considering IMHO. There is a 10-day free trial version you can download to experiment with which might make you rethink, especially if you put some 'weedy' clean guitar-esque noises into it and hear what comes out.

Thank you, but this isn't really what I'm looking for.

I don't have the raw recording of a real guitar to effect - it's MIDI notes that i need to turn into the sound of a guitar.

aod wrote:To clarify, I don’t have a guitar or play guitar, but am inputting the guitar lines using a keyboard.

aod wrote:I’m looking for guitar sound plugin for this, but most of what I can find are either Amp simulation packages for actual recordings of guitars, or paid for plugins.


aod wrote:Can anyone suggest a free VST plugin/instrument that works well for making a ‘piano’ (MIDI notes) sound like a guitar?
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby The Elf » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:36 am

I've found the Orange Tree libraries to be incredibly good. Not cheap, and you will need Kontakt to host them, but coupled with a decent amp emulation they're as good as I've ever used.

https://www.orangetreesamples.com/products
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby aod » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:12 pm

The Elf wrote:I've found the Orange Tree libraries to be incredibly good. Not cheap, and you will need Kontakt to host them, but coupled with a decent amp emulation they're as good as I've ever used.

https://www.orangetreesamples.com/products

Thanks! They look amazing, but like you say not cheap, and i don't have Kontakt! But it's just the sort of thing I'm looking for.

I might consider one, although I guess there's nothing free like this available out there.

Alternatively, maybe I'll learn guitar, or just stick to using the sounds I have!
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby The Elf » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:23 pm

aod wrote:
The Elf wrote:I've found the Orange Tree libraries to be incredibly good. Not cheap, and you will need Kontakt to host them, but coupled with a decent amp emulation they're as good as I've ever used.

https://www.orangetreesamples.com/products
Thanks! They look amazing, but like you say not cheap, and i don't have Kontakt! But it's just the sort of thing I'm looking for.
To be fair they work with Kontakt Player, but still a hefty price.
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby merlyn » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:44 pm

There are free soundfonts available around the internet like here :

https://musical-artifacts.com/

To use soundfonts you need software to play them back like sforzando :

https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando.html
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby dpc » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:27 pm

Check out the free version of Ample's Martin, here:
http://www.amplesound.net/en/download.asp

This is an astoundingly deep device with many unique features for getting guitaristic MIDI output, along with a lovely sound; can't do better for free IMO.

In the ALMOST free realm, don't miss Replika's very nice sounding guitars, around 30 quid each:
http://www.replikasound.co.uk/replika_s ... nstrs.html
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby Eddy Deegan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:19 pm

aod wrote:I don't have the raw recording of a real guitar to effect - it's MIDI notes that i need to turn into the sound of a guitar.

I got that :) ... my suggestion was more along the lines of finding a sound on your keyboard that was more like a 'weedy guitar' sound than a piano sound and using that as the input to a guitar processing VST, but I think the effectiveness of that would rather depend on what sort of guitar sound you are after hence the suggestion to try the demo.

dpc wrote:In the ALMOST free realm, don't miss Replika's very nice sounding guitars, around 30 quid each:
http://www.replikasound.co.uk/replika_s ... nstrs.html

Welcome to the forum dpc :wave:

That sounds pretty good to me, though it does require the full version of Kontakt 5.3.1 or greater.
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby blinddrew » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:19 pm

The Band sampled instruments in Komplete Start (the free instruments that come with Kontact player) include electric guitars:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... -products/
Worth a look I'd suggest.
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Re: Guitar sound MIDI VST

Postby ajay_m » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:52 pm

I know - not free - but I'd scrape up the money and get one of the musiclabs guitars. As a guitarist friend said to me they're the first guitar vst he's heard that actually sound convincing. Plenty of free amp vsts you can run them through. Your taste as to whether realstrat, reallpc or realrick does it for you. I have all 3 plus their acoustic guitar and they are terrific.
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