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Studio DAW PC upgrade 2021

Postby maartenl945 » Sat May 01, 2021 10:38 am

I just started a series of videos on my YouTube channel about upgrading my DAW PC in 2021. Are any of you doing or planning to do the same ? It's a bit of a crazy year w.r.t. silicon shortage and component prices .... :shock: Any opinions/tips/tricks ?

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Re: Studio DAW PC upgrade 2021

Postby uselessoldman » Sat May 01, 2021 1:13 pm

If it had been a specific DAW and music production rig I would have crucified your build but since you are also using it for video editing BUT not 3D rendering I will reserve judgement. You did not specify what software your using or type/size of video files and I only briefly looked at your build video part 2.

Can understand people going down the Intel route cos of Thunderbolt, but you can use a addon card for Ryzen and I would go Ryzen over Intel any day I guess a personal choice. But then my argument would be, Intel systems lack PCIx4 and for that reason alone I would go for AMD and since you are doing video editing which hammers all the subsystems, a no brainer.

Your board has dual M2, why not use both? 32Gb Ram why not, DDR4 Ram is currently cheap. The RTX 3060 16GB ?? maybe, maybe not its a seriously expensive card but I do not know what videos your trying to edit but is RTX really necessary? Its even questionable for gaming or for virtual reality headsets that can push any GPU to its limits. Come back in 3 or 4 years and I might revise my thoughts on it, but for now its in the main, a gimmick and marketing slogan. 8gb GPU for gaming is more than enough for most games even running at Ultra settings at 4k unless you are using multiple screens, I know that is what I use.

I use Factual cases cos I use a lot of hard drives, great cases if a little large (XL series) and damn heavy. Plenty of spaces for case fans which I need my cases are like radiators !!
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Re: Studio DAW PC upgrade 2021

Postby maartenl945 » Sun May 23, 2021 9:22 pm

uselessoldman wrote:If it had been a specific DAW and music production rig I would have crucified your build but since you are also using it for video editing BUT not 3D rendering I will reserve judgement. You did not specify what software your using or type/size of video files and I only briefly looked at your build video part 2.

Can understand people going down the Intel route cos of Thunderbolt, but you can use a addon card for Ryzen and I would go Ryzen over Intel any day I guess a personal choice. But then my argument would be, Intel systems lack PCIx4 and for that reason alone I would go for AMD and since you are doing video editing which hammers all the subsystems, a no brainer.

Your board has dual M2, why not use both? 32Gb Ram why not, DDR4 Ram is currently cheap. The RTX 3060 16GB ?? maybe, maybe not its a seriously expensive card but I do not know what videos your trying to edit but is RTX really necessary? Its even questionable for gaming or for virtual reality headsets that can push any GPU to its limits. Come back in 3 or 4 years and I might revise my thoughts on it, but for now its in the main, a gimmick and marketing slogan. 8gb GPU for gaming is more than enough for most games even running at Ultra settings at 4k unless you are using multiple screens, I know that is what I use.

I use Factual cases cos I use a lot of hard drives, great cases if a little large (XL series) and damn heavy. Plenty of spaces for case fans which I need my cases are like radiators !!

Ha ha, crucify away ;). I'm using DaVinci Resolve for video editing and the recommendation is specifically to use NVidia Graphics cards for that (I believe it is the same for Premiere Pro). Not doing any gaming on this system so that's not the reason for getting the 3060. It's not a top of the line card. They recommend 3080/3090 for Resolve actually https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommende ... mendations.

If I hadn't planned to use it for video editing as well, I would probably have used just the onboard graphics of the MB, and the I7 version of the processor. Yes I understand AMD is definitely an option now, but a lot of builders in Holland still prefer the Intel range for stability/compatibility when used in a DAW PC. But there are lots of opinions floating around on this :). I went the save route, and my experience with Intel based systems has been good over the years.

I didn't use both M2 slots because I have some SSDs that I wanted to re-use and I believe it also prevented me from using all the PCI slots I needed for my RME and UAD PCI cards.
I did put 32Gb of DDR4 RAM in there by the way.

I very much like the Fractal case apart from the DVD/CD burner bracket which is really flimsy. But most people don't need optical drivers anymore I guess.
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Re: Studio DAW PC upgrade 2021

Postby uselessoldman » Mon May 24, 2021 9:42 pm

Taking in to consideration todays computer market, recommending almost anything is not to recommend. Yes sometimes we just have to buy components due to necessity, more storage, more memory replace something broken, but with current shortages, prices and future technology, is now the time to buy? Then we can debate all day about what components are potentially most suitable for a specific purpose and those not.

Lets take Graphics for example, what card is best, then there is best value. Then there is what can you actually buy and that changes from week to week depending on stock and prices and that includes both new and second hand !!

Then we get youtubers, streamers bloggers and the content contributors. Kudos and respect to them all, erm most of them, or maybe just some of them some of the time. A few years back there were a few who thought I should do it, aaugh, like yeah no thanks. I had enough hassle sorting them out, last thing I needed was to join them. So years down the line some still do it some not, it takes dedication time patience and none of them I have much of.

Then you get Mac v PC and Intel v AMD then AMD v nVidia. Brand loyalty, reputation and perception of compatibility. I have owned computers now for 35 yrs, never once owned a Mac never will, but I do own and use both Intel and AMD machines.

I was joking about the crucifixion. I just sometimes like being the provocateur. Usually not to specifically cause offense but more to stir up debate, although sometimes its a thin line.

oh well back to WOT, almost completed 45k battles
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