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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Wonks » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:51 pm

ef37a wrote:Son has had a 330 (360, can never remember*)

Dave.

It was a 330.

(230s are real dentist guitars).

The Rickenbacker guitar necks are already on the narrow side, and the 12-string necks (I believe) are the same width as the 6-string ones. 12-strings normally have wider necks to keep almost the same string spacing between adjacent pairs as between strings on a 6-string, so trying to fit 12 strings into the same space as 6 strings doesn't leave much of a gap.

I had the same problem with a Yamaha Pacifica 12-string electric. Strings were far to close together to play easily, so I gave it to a mate with smaller fingers.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby John Egan » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:14 pm

I love the sound of a 12-string Ricky. Nothing else has the sound. I reckon the secret to keeping them in tune is to never change the strings.......ever. Fortunately I rarely break strings!
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Music Wolf » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:17 pm

I’d never heard of a 230 before and, having just looked them up, I now rather wish that I hadn’t. That is one fugly guitar.

I do fancy a 330 but I’ve never played one.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:26 pm

John Egan wrote:I love the sound of a 12-string Ricky. Nothing else has the sound. I reckon the secret to keeping them in tune is to never change the strings.......ever. Fortunately I rarely break strings!
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Ricky 12 strings were usually strung with the octave string of each pair to the treble side of the main string, the majority is 12s have the octave string on the bass side so the pick hits it first when strumming the, usually, stronger down stroke. I think that had a lot to do with the distinctive sound of a Rikky 12.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby James Perrett » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:38 pm

I'm not really a guitarist but, having tried one that belonged to a friend, a 12 string Rickenbacker is the only guitar that I would like to add to my (minimal) collection. I've tried a couple of 6 string Rickenbackers and they just don't have the same appeal.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby John Egan » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:53 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:
John Egan wrote:I love the sound of a 12-string Ricky. Nothing else has the sound. I reckon the secret to keeping them in tune is to never change the strings.......ever. Fortunately I rarely break strings!
Regards, John

Ricky 12 strings were usually strung with the octave string of each pair to the treble side of the main string, the majority is 12s have the octave string on the bass side so the pick hits it first when strumming the, usually, stronger down stroke. I think that had a lot to do with the distinctive sound of a Rikky 12.

That does make a big difference to the sound of the octave pairs of strings. As far as I know, in the mid 60s that configuration was unique to the Ricky 12s.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby arkieboy » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:07 pm

I have played a 330 6 string owned by a huge Weller fan. Felt horrible. Would never have picked the guitar up willingly.

Steve Howe used a 12 string 330 on 'Awaken': he now uses a Steinberger for that song. And has done for years and years.

Consequently I feel happy to point out my VG99 and SY1000 both do 330 12str Rick impersonations, that you can play with any guitar that can host a GK3/graphtech/RMC/LR Baggs installation. Authentic - not. Playable - you bet!

Modern tech. Who would have thought, eh?
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Wonks » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:10 am

Music Wolf wrote:I’d never heard of a 230 before and, having just looked them up, I now rather wish that I hadn’t. That is one fugly guitar.
You didn't get the 2:30 /dentist/tooth-hurty joke then :)

(I didn't know they'd actually made one)
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Music Wolf » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:51 am

Wonks wrote:
Music Wolf wrote:I’d never heard of a 230 before and, having just looked them up, I now rather wish that I hadn’t. That is one fugly guitar.
You didn't get the 2:30 /dentist/tooth-hurty joke then :)

(I didn't know they'd actually made one)

Doh! I'm getting slow in my old age.

Here's a Rick 230 (I'm sharing the pain)

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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby blinddrew » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:11 am

From that view I though, 'looks alright to me'. So I went off to google.
Nope, you're right, properly fugly.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Wonks » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:25 am

I wouldn't class it as fugly. It's rather plain and uninteresting, but there are a lot of far worse guitars out there.

Glen Frey had a signature model, and the changes greatly improve the looks IMO.

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Still not that pretty, but acceptable. The headstock is a bit too large for the body to look balanced.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Music Wolf » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:31 am

To be fair, it's not the ugliest instrument that they've ever come up with;

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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Wonks » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:44 am

Well, it was very banjo-like, so they had to find a way to stop people burning it.
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby Music Wolf » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:13 am

Wonks wrote:Well, it was very banjo-like, so they had to find a way to stop people burning it.

touché :clap:
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Re: How the hell does anyone actually play a Rickenbacker?

Postby BigRedX » Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm

I've tried several 12 string electric guitars over the years and could never get on with the narrow necks on Rickenbackers. I ended up with a Honher TE XII Custom. If you do a search for one of these you'll come up with several photos of a rather uninspiring black Tele-shaped guitar fitted with humbuckers!

However mine looked like this:

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The old other one I have seen the same design belonged to Captain Sensible of The Damned. This has a suitably wide neck and although the pickups were low output compared with my other guitars the sound was fantastic. In fact IME the low output is very much central to getting a clear shimmering sound from a 12 string electric.
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