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Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:40 am
by Wonks
The Gold Top knob issue is now all sorted. I got my money back from Music Store for the Gibson knobs that didn't match their description (kudos to Music Store for arranging the refund without any prompting after finding that all their stock of the knobs were the same as mine). Allparts did vintage amber top hat knobs, so I ordered some of them and they are just right. In fact they look just like the ones in the Gibson picture!

They are less dark than the Gibson knobs and also sit lower on the potentiometer shafts than the Gibson's did. So all round they are much, much betterer.

The picture shows the Allparts knobs fitted (along with added position pointers) with a Gibson sitting on the top for comparison.

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These video reviews of a 2019 Les Paul Standard shows the same dark Vintage Amber knobs without lettering as the one's I bought, so it's definitely a common Gibson issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJYnelIj8eE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQQ9kkPp97I

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:36 pm
by Wonks
I've just noticed that the Gibson knobs (and also the original gold speed knobs) were designed for a 24-spline shaft. However the Allparts ones are for 18-spline shafts, which is what the pots fitted actually have. So Gibson were either fitting the wrong knobs, or else ordering and fitting the wrong pots from CTS. Either way, there was a mismatch which should not have happened and was why the Gibson knobs were sitting proud of the body.

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:02 pm
by Hewesy
Hmm, That's not good. Are the pots at least the correct rating still?

I know they are production line guitars but the effort you've had to put in on this to get it match fit is worrying. Though I suppose the trade off is you know it's bob-on for your fingers...

Hewesy

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:42 pm
by Wonks
Some is just preference, some is necessary. Nut and knobs (which is marginally better than writing 'nuts and knob') were the real quality issues.

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:28 pm
by Hewesy
:D that's my other folk group name...

Hewesy

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:31 am
by Jay Menon
Wonks - would you consider fitting Kinman or Mojotone hum-cancelling P-90s to this baby?

And if so (or if not) would you elaborate on your reasoning please?

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:41 am
by Wonks
Probably not. I like the sound of the guitar with the pickups just as they are. For P90s, they don't seem to pick up as much hum as some other guitars with P90s I've had. I can normally find a position when I'm not getting hum from them.

If the pickups sounded bad, then I'd be thinking of replacements and I might consider hum-cancelling versions. But I haven't heard any myself, so it would be a lot of money to spend on something that I'm not sure I would like the sound of.

There's also the question of fit, as the extra coil makes the pickups deeper than standard, and some guitars have needed extra routing to fit the hum-cancelling types.

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:18 pm
by Jay Menon
Actually the newer Kinman offerings (and also the Mojotone Quiet Coil P90s) are now no taller than conventional P90s - and are advertised as fitting in conventionally deep pickup tours...

Re: Gibson 2018 Classic Les Paul Gold Top

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:25 pm
by Wonks
Interesting to know - thanks.