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How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Gone To Lunch » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:12 pm

I am doing a track that needs some spy guitar.

I am not a guitar player and I am using the guitar VIs in MOTU MachFive3 in my Digital Performer 9, Les Paul & Strat. The DP is well supplied with FX pedals, inc tremolo and spring reverb

Advice thus far has been slow tremolo and spring reverb. (Also Hawaiin shirts and amphetamines.)

What I want to know is what is the best sequence for the plugins - tremolo or spring reverb first, on should the spring be on an aux bus ?

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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Hewesy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:04 pm

If it was a guitarist playing period kit it would be trem then reverb, either built into an old Fender style amp or using a trem pedal into the amp. (if really lucky maybe an old Fender spring reverb tank between the amp and speaker).

Guitar wise the Strat might be your best bet as no doubt you want to use the whammy for authentic warbles and dips, use the neck pickup and start with the tone fully rolled off then adjust to suit.

Of course if your LP has a Bigsby then that's perfect :-)

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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby CS70 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:06 pm

Do you mean surf style? Peter Gunn? As of a real guitar, it's mostly the playing technique. Lots of attack pick sound, so you need to play the bridge pickup, mute the strings to get the bouncy feel, precise fretting and good timing, Wash it all with reverb and a little vibrato. Clean amp, must respond fast, so I'd go more towards a VOX than a Fender. Play with the bridge tone control to get the right timbre. Can be done with any guitar, but a strat, a tele or a hollowbody with P90s will do out of the box..

With virtual instruments, I would try to find a base sound with these characteristics (bridgey so more highs, palm-muted and short decay), a clean snappy amp emulation and then yes , vibrato (like in VOX vibrato, so tremolo) and reverb. No idea if it's possible, the easiest would be to ask a good guitarist friend.. :)
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby gingertimmins » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:15 pm

Hewesy wrote:If it was a guitarist playing period kit it would be trem then reverb, either built into an old Fender style amp or using a trem pedal into the amp. (if really lucky maybe an old Fender spring reverb tank between the amp and speaker).

Guitar wise the Strat might be your best bet as no doubt you want to use the whammy for authentic warbles and dips, use the neck pickup and start with the tone fully rolled off then adjust to suit.

Of course if your LP has a Bigsby then that's perfect :-)

Hewesy

I recently found out that the old fender amps actually went reverb into trem. Not sure what era exactly but I’d guess that surf was pretty prominent.

Definitely get the spring reverb going though!
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Wonks » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:16 pm

Vic Flick played the James Bond guitar.

https://youtu.be/eeuhXwvb3V8

Interview: https://youtu.be/6FTKdLyJ2rw

Not sure that tremolo was a major part of the sound, but I'm sure it's been used on some sound-alikes.
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby BJG145 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:26 am

Q) Can someone please tell me how to go about getting that guitar sound?

A)

1 Fender Jaguar
1 Fender Twin Reverb amp
1 Hawaiian shirt
1 Surf board
A pinch of amphetamine

HTH
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:34 am

So far we've got:
Use a fender or a gibson as long as it has a whammy bar.
Use the neck or the bridge pick-up.
Use a fender or a Vox amp.
Tremolo into verb or verb into tremolo...

Guitarists are a funny bunch ;)
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Wonks » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:52 am

And of course you absolutely must use a valve U47, a vintage Neve desk and 4-track tape. ;)
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Music Wolf » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:07 pm

Of course you'll need a Strat, but not any old Strat.

Now pay attention. This may look like a normal Fender Stratocaster but flick the pickup selector to position 4, like so, and you have semi automatic machine pistol. Fires standard 7.62mm rounds at a rate of 45 rounds per minute.

The pull switch on the neck tone control activates a tracking beacon and the low E string can be used as a garrotte.

Now you'll need a disguise. Here's a false beard and dark glasses. You may be surprised to know that we've had six different agents using the cover identity of Billy Gibbons in the last five years alone.
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby CS70 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:08 pm

blinddrew wrote:So far we've got:
Use a fender or a gibson as long as it has a whammy bar.
Use the neck or the bridge pick-up.
Use a fender or a Vox amp.
Tremolo into verb or verb into tremolo...

Guitarists are a funny bunch ;)

Ahah good point. Thing is, it's a clean guitar into a clean amp - almost any guitar and amp can do, as what matters most is the technique. Heck, you can play Peter Gunn convincingly on a nylon string..
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby zenguitar » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:18 pm

Could I suggest a Martin acoustic?

00-15 perhaps? Licenced to kill.

Andy :beamup:
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby CS70 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:06 pm

zenguitar wrote:Could I suggest a Martin acoustic?

00-15 perhaps? Licenced to kill.

Andy :beamup:

Licensed to kill double, plus one! :)
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby BigRedX » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:41 pm

Big Heavy strings especially at the bottom end, clean precise picking technique.

Add a touch of valve drive (just a bit of warmth) and reverb to taste.
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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Hewesy » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:16 pm

gingertimmins wrote:
I recently found out that the old fender amps actually went reverb into trem. Not sure what era exactly but I’d guess that surf was pretty prominent.

Definitely get the spring reverb going though!

Did not know that, interesting stuff GT.

Now, back to random daftness...

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Re: How to do spy guitar ?

Postby Hewesy » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:17 pm

Double post it seems...
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