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Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:28 pm
by garrettendi
Guys, I apologise if it sounds I'm not taking on board what everyone says but my first baby is coming very soon, and we'll be down to one income with three people to feed... I have to stick to a really tight budget and not do too much too soon.

I know I need a power supply and I'll get one ASAP, and unfortunately £200 is just impossible....

So apologies if it sounds like I'm rejecting what is sound advice, but my family's expenses have to be top priority. I'm sure you guys will understand.

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:29 pm
by GrandHotelAbyss
I'd budget more than that for a PSU. best thing I ever did was buy a big PSU with isolated outputs and mount it under a pedaltrain - had a tour to do with minimal time for setups/takedowns - and its made everything so much more fun because I dont have to think about the pedals. Mines an Aetos from Walrus audio but theres lots out there. I think you need to be careful about isolated outputs - some are advertised as such but dont have them.

I know its dull to spend money on things that dont make sounds but the ergonomics more than make up for it!

have fun with your board!

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:32 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
Of course we understand... :thumbup:

Just beware of the old adage 'buy cheap, buy twice...' Better to wait a while till the piggy bank is healthier than rush out and buy something that either won't do the job properly from the outset or that you'll need to replace very soon.

And a decent PSU will last a lifetime, of course...

Good advice about checking the 'isolated outputs' too -- some really aren't isolated. They may come from separate regulators but they often share a common ground. Not helpful!

And of course, isolated outputs may not actually be necessary -- it will depend on the specific collections of pedals you're planning to use. So a cheaper supply may appear to work fine initially... until you add another pedal and it suddenly all goes to cock... :D

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:33 pm
by Sam Spoons
Hugh is right of course but, just to balance the debate, I've had a cheap Thomann one for six years. It's not isolated but it works fine with my small collection of pedals, and you can always send to back if it causes hums or buzzes (I did so with another one I bought first).

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https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_powerplant.htm

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:36 pm
by Kwackman
That 500mA max load will soon get used up depending on what pedals are used.

Garrettendi- what pedals are you going to use?

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:39 pm
by garrettendi
Kwackman wrote:That 500mA max load will soon get used up depending on what pedals are used.

Garrettendi- what pedals are you going to use?

Thanks!

Morley Bad Horsie
Boss TU-3 tuner
Joyo Ultimate Drive
Behringer HM-300
Marshall GV-2
Biyang Metal End King

I was actually planning on taking the entire board to a guitar shop and getting them to advise and wire up the power supply

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:45 pm
by Wonks
All basic analogue circuits apart from the TU-3, and that's only 30mA, So 500mA would be fine for the current set up (did you see what I did there?).

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:47 pm
by garrettendi
I couldn't find specs for the Metal End online but the Akai version (it's a clone) says to use a minimum 200mA power supply? But are you saying it's not a 200mA draw?

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:48 pm
by garrettendi
Found a picture of the back of the Metal End here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/ammoon-Distort ... NrPXRydWU=

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Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:49 pm
by The Elf
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Better to wait a while till the piggy bank is healthier than rush out and buy something that you'll need to replace very soon. And a decent PSU will last a lifetime, of course...
+1 :!:

Do you seriously want to be fastening/unfastening the pedals to muck about with batteries?! Wait a little longer and do the job properly.

But 200 quid?!?! Nah! The one I use typically goes for between 10 and 20 quid on eBay.

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:50 pm
by Wonks
garrettendi wrote:I was actually planning on taking the entire board to a guitar shop and getting them to advise and wire up the power supply


And I thought you were trying to save money! It really is a no-brainer to plug the PSU cables into the pedals. All the voltage and polarity of the pedals will be 9v centre negative to the Boss standard.

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:52 pm
by Wonks
garrettendi wrote:I couldn't find specs for the Metal End online but the Akai version (it's a clone) says to use a minimum 200mA power supply? But are you saying it's not a 200mA draw?

It says 43mA further down the Amazon page.

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:58 pm
by The Elf
garrettendi wrote:I was actually planning on taking the entire board to a guitar shop and getting them to advise and wire up the power supply
Absolutely no need! Just plug it all in and use it! Any advice you need is here on the forum.

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:00 pm
by garrettendi
The Elf wrote:Absolutely no need! Just plug it all in and use it!

Think I might do that then... What's the danger if something goes wrong?

Thanks to everyone for your help, and I apologise for being so tight with the pennies.

EDIT: I mean I'll get the Thomann one.

Re: Pedalboard Day!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:03 pm
by Wonks
Just check the supplied leads before you use them and don't use ones with reversed voltage polarity connections (normally have a red end) and you'll be fine.