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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Wonks » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:12 pm

That's why they are called F-holes.
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Wonks » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:16 pm

For long runs inside a guitar like that, surgical latex tubing is often better than string. Get the right size for a pot shaft and you can stretch it over the shaft and it will cling nicely, despite being pulled/stretched.

It comes in a few different internal diameters. You can also use it for springs on Strat and Tele pickups.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=latex+tubi ... _sb_noss_1
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby ManFromGlass » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:32 pm

another small but brilliant tip. The stuff I learn here!
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Kwackman » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:33 pm

Wonks wrote:That's why they are called F-holes.
On this particular guitar they aren't real F holes, they are painted on!
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Kwackman » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:36 pm

Wonks wrote:For long runs inside a guitar like that, surgical latex tubing is often better than string. Get the right size for a pot shaft and you can stretch it over the shaft and it will cling nicely, despite being pulled/stretched.

Wonks, your timing sucks! :D
I would say, I'll use that next time, but there won't be a next time.
(I'll save that link though.....)
Thanks.
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Wonks » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:39 pm

I did finally find some switches that looked reasonably suitable. But I won't mention that. :shh:
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Kwackman » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:41 pm

Wonks wrote:I did finally find some switches that looked reasonably suitable. But I won't mention that. :shh:

Swear box got a bit fuller!
Thanks Wonks, but I don't ever want to see inside that guitar again!
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby blinddrew » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:23 pm

Kwackman wrote:Thanks Wonks, but I don't ever want to see inside that guitar again!
I admire your new-found confidence, but I think trying to do this with your eyes closed is probably not a good idea. ;)
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby adrian_k » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:11 am

Wonks wrote:I did finally find some switches that looked reasonably suitable. But I won't mention that. :shh:
Can I take a mo to applaud not just Wonks encyclopaedic guitar esoterica but also he just keeps adding to it. Knowing where to get those switches will come in handy one day!
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Kwackman » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:03 am

adrian_k wrote:
Wonks wrote:I did finally find some switches that looked reasonably suitable. But I won't mention that. :shh:
Can I take a mo to applaud not just Wonks encyclopaedic guitar esoterica but also he just keeps adding to it. Knowing where to get those switches will come in handy one day!

That's a very good point Adrian.
Thanks to Wonks for tracking down that switch, I thought I'd searched everywhere but you obviously know all the best places to look!
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Wonks » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:15 am

I now need to find it again!
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Wonks » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:41 am

The originals (if like Switchcraft toggles) need a 1/2" diameter hole.

Not the one I found originally but this would work. As they aren't meant for guitar mounting, you may need to add some washers yourself.

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/toggle-switches/8798143/

I've been looking at 6A switches as they should be easier to switch than 10A and 15A etc. switches.
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Re: SPST switch for old guitar

Postby Kwackman » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:21 pm

I think those 6A ones would still be a lot stiffer than the ones in the guitar. I reckon the "clunk" would become a major part of the sound!
I took my faulty one apart to see if I could fix it, but I couldn't. Internally, it's just a toggle releasing a metal strip from pressing against another metal strip. It feels like the "stiffness" (quiet at the back) of a Les Paul pick-up selector switch.

Some further info...
I looked at the Gretsch guitar mine is a copy of. Their switches seem to be 3 way, rather than 2 way like mine. So in the middle it was straight through, then up and down gave differing tone changes using different capacitors. (On the Gretsch forums described as "muddy" & "extra muddy"!)
My guitar is old, and I remember working at it when I bought it second hand 25 years ago (or more). And judging from what I seen then, I wasn't the first one at it's insides. SO, it's possible these switches were originally SPDT, and someone had replaced them? Dunno?
I know someone who also had one of these guitars. I'm going to see if he still has his, and what those switches are on his. I'll report back if I find anything new.
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