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Postby blinddrew » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:54 pm

Our bass player is looking for a way to take a single note and hold it indefinitely, and then be able to play over the top of it.
Is there a simple tool that'll do this or is she looking at a looper and much experimentation?
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby Wonks » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:17 pm

Probably that, or else a GK bass MIDI pickup and a Boss synth pedal with a hold function.

Or maybe this: https://www.andertons.co.uk/gamechanger ... tain-pedal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEvMxy8r7Zk
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby The Elf » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:28 pm

Bass pedals? It would be a great excuse to hunt down a Moog Taurus, though some MIDI pedals and a Minitaur would be more economic.
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby blinddrew » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:18 pm

Sorry should have mentioned, probably a £100 limit. But second hand definitely considered.
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby Hewesy » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:28 pm

EHX Freeze or a Boss SYB3/5 offer this function, depends if she wants to add any FX to the held note.

The other option would be a volume pedal feeding a long delay, either infinite or say 6-800ms. Benefit here is the note will hold but then decay. She could then play chord ls and have them fade in/out rather than be a bit more static.

Just read she wants indefinite - so consider above as a variation option!

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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby blinddrew » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 am

Cheers folks, i'll have a look around, any more suggestions welcome though. :)
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby wdsteele » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:53 pm

Came across a ZCAT Hold Delay pedal recently on e-bay , may still be on sale .

Sorry I have no link but the hold/sustain aspect was very nice sounding in the clips I'd googled , plus bonus delay and nice chorus , both useful enough in bass land .

I think they're expensive new but was around £100 2nd hand .
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby blinddrew » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:16 pm

sounds promising, will keep an eye open.
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby CS70 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:49 pm

Ebow? There’s a bass version. Getting one just these days for a similar reason.
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby ManFromGlass » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 pm

Bass ebow? Whoa! Brilliant idea. I assume it’s larger than the guitar version.
Off to do the research . . . . .
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby Wonks » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:31 am

But you can't sustain and play over the top with an ebow.

Well, one can always play 'over the top', but you can't play other things when you're using the ebow.
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby BJG145 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:24 am

The Gamechanger Plus Wonks mentioned looks pretty cool, though well over budget. Been on the wish list for a while.

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https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ga ... plus-pedal
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby The Elf » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:44 am

There's a set of bass pedals that changes hands for usually less than 100 quid. I've had a couple pass through my hands. They often go under the name of Technote MPB-1, but I've seen them badged under other names. They're very basic, but they work reliably.

As long as you have something kicking around you can plug them into and get a decent bass sounds they're a good investment. Sure, they're not as robust as something like the Roland PK-5, but they're perfectly good for the money. I know a Rush tribute band who have dined out on these pedals for years!

I did think I still had some, but a quick search of the garage isn't proving fruitful.

None currently on eBay that I can see, but it might be worth adding an auto-search.
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby blinddrew » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:52 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions again; the Gamechanger looks awesome but well out of budget sadly.
A bass ebow might be worth a look, I know a normal guitar one only really works on the G of a standard bass. If it could be held in a couple of fingers that might leave another finger free for some simple stuff over the top (but not 'over the top' ;) ).
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Re: Sustain pedal

Postby BJG145 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:34 pm

...as Hewesy says, the EHX Freeze does a similar job and you can pick them up on eBay for around £100.

Ages ago I joined the crowd-funded scheme started by Paul Vo of Moog Guitar fame for his "Wond II" / "EMpick", which is supposed to be a kind of high-powered eBow that works on bass, though it's been a long wait... :tongue:

https://voinventions.com/wond-ii-project/
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