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Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby DC-Choppah » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:54 am

What is a good amp simulator pedal to allow me to play my guitar through a home stereo so I can practice guitar in my office through the stereo that is in there.

A little reverb would be nice too.

I am looking for a good jazzy clean tone that sounds like a tube amp.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Music Wolf » Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:41 am

I was going to suggest something like the Boss FDR-1, like the one I have sitting in my loft. OK, but nothing special, and probably made redundant by todays modellers such as the Helix. I was expecting that you should be able to pick one up for next to nothing - then I checked ebay :o . I'll be going up to the loft later and rescuing it along with the Sansamp original. Who'd have thought that there was a market for these 'classics' :headbang:

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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Wonks » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:42 am

Is this a sensible route? For the cost of a decent amp sim pedal (especially one with reverb), you could get a small modelling practice amp which will sound so much better.
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby ef37a » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:49 am

"I am looking for a good jazzy clean tone that sounds like a tube amp."

Well if you find one DC. JUST tell me and this time next year we will both be miwyonares!

Holy Grail mate! But to be serious you need a pedal that delivers a 'speaker emulated' output. The raw output of an electric guitar is very harsh and 'fizzy'. Moreover the high frequency content (or distorted mids) can easily burn out a tweeter. This is compounded by the fact that hi fi speakers are a good 10-15dB less sensitive than guitar speakers and so you will out in a lot more watts for 85-90dB sound levels which is where you will be for a decent rock 'experience'. Emulation takes some of the HF fizz off but you still need to be careful.

Vibrato is another killer. Of woofers this time. Git speakers have very stiff, strong suspensions and do not move much for LF inputs. The high compliance, long throw cones in hi fi speaker do! They can be ripped from their suspensions or the 'spider' will suffer damage. By the same token do not, ever put bass guitar through a hi fi speaker except perhaps for the very quietest tune up or function test.

'Spam' of course forbids me to mention a manufctr of both amps and pedals with EM outputs!
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Kwackman » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:10 am

Wonks wrote:Is this a sensible route? For the cost of a decent amp sim pedal (especially one with reverb), you could get a small modelling practice amp which will sound so much better.
+1 on this plan.

Maybe one of the small Roland Cubes?
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Dynamic Mike » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:13 am

Check out the Boss JS10 eBand. I can't recommend it highly enough. Does everything you need and more. Patch your hifi into the JS10 and you don't need to worry.
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Wonks » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:22 am

Dynamic Mike wrote:Check out the Boss JS10 eBand. I can't recommend it highly enough. Does everything you need and more. Patch your hifi into the JS10 and you don't need to worry.
£300+

You can get a full-blown Katana for less.
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Music Wolf » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:22 am

I bought my son a Blackstar Fly prac amp (analogue). I was very impressed.

Around the £50 mark but, be warned, that doesn't include a power supply which would cost c£25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dffjMOOudk0
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Wonks » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:24 am

Music Wolf wrote:I bought my son a Blackstar Fly prac amp (analogue). I was very impressed.

Around the £50 mark but, be warned, that doesn't include a power supply which would cost c£25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dffjMOOudk0
But no required reverb. Delay isn't the same thing.
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby The Elf » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:28 am

Any of the Digitech RPxx(x) models would do a decent job as your 'by the sofa' friend. I've got a clutch of these, from the humble RP50 to the swanky RP1000 and I know them to be great devices. No, not as sophisticated as something like the Helix, but not as far behind as you'd think for the secondhand price.
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Music Wolf » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:29 am

oops, I forgot about that.

Just shove one of these in front (may need to stretch the budget)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqxTr6XydQ
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby ore_terra » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:47 am

this thing apparently sounds pretty good. don't own one, but a mate does and he's a lot into emulators of all price ranges (kempers, headrush, helix, etc)

https://atomicamps.com/amplifirebox/
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Dynamic Mike » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:48 am

Wonks wrote:
Dynamic Mike wrote:Check out the Boss JS10 eBand. I can't recommend it highly enough. Does everything you need and more. Patch your hifi into the JS10 and you don't need to worry.
£300+

You can get a full-blown Katana for less.
And a full-blown hi-fi speaker for more. :)
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Kwackman » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:53 am

Music Wolf wrote:oops, I forgot about that.

Just shove one of these in front (may need to stretch the budget)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqxTr6XydQ

Or from the same maker....
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/strymon-iridium

But, as said above, a small amp would be cheaper.
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Re: Amp simulator pedal to play guitar through home stereo?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:47 am

Boss Katana 50, great sounding little electric guitar amp, the cleans are fantastic but I didn't buy it 'cos it didn't work well enough with acoustic and I wanted something that did both adequately.
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