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Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby SecretSam » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:01 am

If you haven't already seen it ...

The most insightful explanation I can recall seeing of how a true master thinks about music at a nuts-and-bolts level.

It's a thirteen minute video, and provides enough material for a couple of years of study.

https://youtu.be/wts2Mw6Nb5s

A bit of music theory is required to follow a lot (but not all) of what he is saying.

Wow.
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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby BJG145 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:05 pm

SecretSam wrote:It's a thirteen minute video, and provides enough material for a couple of years of study.

That sounds about right. I know just enough about Allan to know that it's pointless for me to even study what he does. ;)
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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby RichardT » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:42 pm

It might help guitarists, but it’s not a lot of use for keyboard players!
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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby SecretSam » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:46 pm

Yup. Guitar forums, eh ? Cliquey enclaves for guitarists, with no thought for anyone else.
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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby rzzz » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:47 pm

A standout feature of Allan's playing is his unique touch and feel - instantly recognisable.

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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby blinddrew » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:52 pm

To be fair, it's not a whole barrel of help to me either! :D
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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby RichardT » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:33 pm

SecretSam wrote:Yup. Guitar forums, eh ? Cliquey enclaves for guitarists, with no thought for anyone else.

I hadn't spotted that ! :lol:
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Re: Alan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby SecretSam » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:06 am

Oh, come on you big softies.

As Rene MacLean used to say: "Everyone is born with their own natural level of talent. And if you don't practice, that's all you will ever have."

Although I have to confess that I have a lot of music books that are still unopened. Maybe I should stop drooling over gear reviews on YouTube and use the time for practice instead.
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby BJG145 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:38 am

...actually I found one of the first things he says in that clip, that he sees chords as scale fragments played simultaneously, as a simple but valuable insight. It's reignited my passion for out-there scales. I'm currently working on the Lydian augmented...the tonality works nicely with Maj7#5 chords blah blah (I'll make a jazz bore yet)...
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby SecretSam » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:11 pm

Should sound very cool over A minor, which makes it more widely applicable.

I'll see your Jazz Bore and raise you three aces and a Comatose.
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby MOF » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:17 pm

I'll see your Jazz Bore and raise you three aces and a Comatose.
Jazz: A race to the finish in any key you fancy.
Same with prog rock, which is Jazz, only louder. :lol:
Check out that opening music, all over the place. :?
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby PianoPerson » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:21 pm

Pop music: a plod to no discernible finish in only one key and only one chord -- usually E major.
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby MOF » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:06 pm

Pop music: a plod to no discernible finish in only one key and only one chord -- usually E major.
Even Status Quo admitted to using three chords, so I think you’re wrong there, and I don’t think they ever plodded. :D
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby Sam Spoons » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:11 pm

TBF Quo have been 'Rawk' for a long time, they were only ever pop for the first couple of singles...
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Re: Allan Holdsworth explains how it works

Postby SecretSam » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:51 pm

MOF wrote:Jazz: A race to the finish in any key you fancy.

Don't confuse key changes with substitutions. That would just be messy.

Also, don't mix cocaine and LSD. For the same reason.
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