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Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:25 pm
by DC-Choppah
The Elf wrote:I've never understood why the Phase 90 has gone down in legend, while the superior Phase 100 is a forgotten gem!

Is the Phase 100 clean?

I am looking for a clean phasor - One that Feels So Good!

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:28 pm
by DC-Choppah
I have sold the modified Phasor 90. So I am looking for a different one now (clean, not dirty).

Any recommendations are appreciated.

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:02 pm
by Martin Walker
As I understand it, the MXR Phase 100 simply has more stages for a potentially deeper effect, along with an extra 'depth' control so you can vary it, whereas the Phase 90 simply supplies a speed control.

Apart from that I don't think they sound very different.


Martin

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:05 pm
by Martin Walker
DC-Choppah wrote:Any recommendations are appreciated.

Have a listen here - something might catch your fancy!

That Pedal Show – Six Fantastic Phasers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kpkbT2bbb8


Martin

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:45 am
by DC-Choppah
Two hundred thousand dollar phasor pedal!

https://reverb.com/item/35916309-maestr ... phaser-70s

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:26 am
by DC-Choppah
Solved!

I found that my Lexicon MX200 that is in my rack has a phasor in it! I used it for chorus and reverb only before.

The phasor It sounds great. Pure and clean and faithfully can do the Feels So Good thing.

I got a foot controller so I can activate the MIDI program change from my pedal board.

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:58 am
by resistorman
DC-Choppah wrote:Two hundred thousand dollar phasor pedal!

https://reverb.com/item/35916309-maestr ... phaser-70s

Hmmm. Miami. Isn’t that where they sell duct taped bananas for around the same price?

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:11 am
by blinddrew
Seller has 73 five-star reviews though... :headbang:

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:27 pm
by Martin Walker
But 73 five-star reviews isn't nuanced enough for SOS readers - we need more in-depth discussions that point out all the benefits and downsides of each sale ;)


Martin

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:43 pm
by Hewesy
DC-Choppah wrote:
Well, for the recording I posted, the Phase 90 is all that was in between my guitar and the clean mixer. Not clipping on the mixer.

Situation is the same for all my guitars. All guitars need some roll off to not distort this pedal. My main axe these days is my Gibson 195. But they all need a roll off to not clip this pedal.

Yes, it sounded like the input was clipped - and not in a good way to my ear. With the mod and guitar rolled off to 8 it is acceptable.

I am learning something here. I really wanted the Grant Geissman 'Feels so good tone'. It appears that to get that you have to have a different phasor pedal than the one I have?!?

Oh man. This music stuff can be endless sometimes.

I mean I read that Grant used a Phase 90. But now I realize there are lots of these pedals.

Thanks for confirming. I have a modern Phase 90 and it doesn't clip like that with any of my own guitars (including some fairly output humbuckers). It did add a boost which is why I did the same R28 mod. After that it is rather chewy as you'd expect - which is a good thing!

So, I suspect that sadly yours has some issue causing it to clip the input gain. Two choices here, either send it off to someone who can check it over for you or buy a replacement.

There are various iterations of the Phase 90, Grant apparently used a classic Script logo so my suggestion would be to try a clone rather than either risk another 2ndhand unit or spend £££ buying the MXR reissue, unless you want too of course

A Mooer Ninety Orange has a vintage mode which supposedly copes this sound, usually Mooer stuff is actually very good at replicating classic gear so worth a punt for the price. Their Yelliw Comp is a very nice replication of a Diamond Compressor too.

Hewesy

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:46 pm
by DC-Choppah
Thanks Hewesy.

I sold the modified pedal and the new owner likes the sound.

I am using the phasor setting on Lexicon MX200 which is in my guitar rack. Sounds great and very clean.

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:31 am
by Hewesy
Result alround then mate, nice one.

If you go back to stomps then the Mooer recreations are really nice, their tremolo pedal is very very highly regarded.

Hewesy

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:14 pm
by Arpangel
DC-Choppah wrote:Thanks Hewesy.

I sold the modified pedal and the new owner likes the sound.

I am using the phasor setting on Lexicon MX200 which is in my guitar rack. Sounds great and very clean.

The MX200 is very underrated, forget the reverbs, it really is amazing and worth the price just as a modulation and delay unit.

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:30 pm
by ManFromGlass
I’ve never researched the Mooers, I just assumed they were a bad Chinese knock-off on Amazon.
I’ll have a second look.

Re: Please help with MXR Phase 90 distortion problem

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:57 pm
by Hewesy
They're starting to get a bit of a following. The Trelicopter trem is used by the likes of Bernard Butler and loved by That Pedal Show amongst others.

Some of their replications are spot on, the Black Secret for example which has both standard and Turbo Rats in a tiny box. The Yellow Comp is brilliant (especially on electric 12 string).

To temper though personally their Blues Driver copy didn't work out for me but still has a great following. I fancy their Blues Breaker copy next, one pedal that got away from me in the 90's.

Worth a nose and on Amazon for easy returns.

Hewesy