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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Wonks » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:48 am

Arpangel wrote:
Eddy Deegan wrote:
The Elf wrote:So, a 4-oscillator MiniMoog... Where do I queue?

Right behind the scruffy looking guy with long hair, though that doesn't narrow it down much probably. It might be best to try a directional mic to identify where the sound of all those crying wallets is coming from :wave:

You'll all have to wait behind me, the old bloke waving his bus pass....

You've obviously never experienced The Elf's highly trained team of vicious attack hedgehogs throwing themselves at your ankles. You won't be standing there for long. :D
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:52 am

While the Wabbit burrows himself to the front of the queue :bouncy:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Wonks » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 am

Sussed!
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Arpangel » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:08 pm

Wonks wrote:
Arpangel wrote:
Eddy Deegan wrote:
The Elf wrote:So, a 4-oscillator MiniMoog... Where do I queue?

Right behind the scruffy looking guy with long hair, though that doesn't narrow it down much probably. It might be best to try a directional mic to identify where the sound of all those crying wallets is coming from :wave:

You'll all have to wait behind me, the old bloke waving his bus pass....

You've obviously never experienced The Elf's highly trained team of vicious attack hedgehogs throwing themselves at your ankles. You won't be standing there for long. :D

Those hedgehogs won't stand a chance after they get a whiff of my Tena pants...

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:48 pm

Actually it is me who is at the front of the queue, not that I can afford it at the moment.

But you have to admit no one has ever released synths at such a rate, excluding eurorack manufacturers possibly. Looks like their synth gamble is paying off.
If only other long established manufacturers could do the same and with fullsize keys from the outset, but Roland and Korg do like their minikeys on synths :madas:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:08 pm

No sign of a price yet but I wish I'd known that it was coming before I bought the Akai Miniak (as nice as that is) if only 'cos I always wanted a MiniMoog and the PolyD looks a close as you'll get for reasonable money (I can't justify a real one given my limited keyboard chops).
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:58 pm

Grapevine is saying $699, but I don't know if that's based on knowledge or wishful thinking.

Anything like that and it's going to do very well indeed.

Hopefully I can fit that PSU inside the case - then that's me sorted for a lead synth until they nail me in.

Hope the pitchbend in release is sorted out this time.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby IAA » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:58 pm

I’d like Gordon/Paul to give it the once over - must say I’m impressed with Behringer’s work ethic for sure! :clap:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Dave B » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:17 pm

The fourth oscillator is interesting. It looks like it also goes into LFO mode, so I'm hoping that I can have a 3 osc mini with lfo and no compromise - which would be great.

Bum. And I was doing so well in my gear lust. But I can see a bit of a splurge next year.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby desmond » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 am

I don't understand why there is a separate On/Off rocker switch for the chorus section, when there are On/Off switches for Modes 1 and 2 already..?

Surely if both mode switches are off, the chorus is off. Want chorus mode 1? Press the button and it's on, etc, up to pressing both together for mode 3. It seems the rocker is superfluous, unless I'm missing something obvious...
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Agharta » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:40 am

desmond wrote:I don't understand why there is a separate On/Off rocker switch for the chorus section, when there are On/Off switches for Modes 1 and 2 already..?

Surely if both mode switches are off, the chorus is off. Want chorus mode 1? Press the button and it's on, etc, up to pressing both together for mode 3. It seems the rocker is superfluous, unless I'm missing something obvious...

Maybe it's there to wind up Steve Reich fans? :?
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Eddy Deegan » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:50 am

It's a prog-rocker. You can never have enough of them!

One thing I'd like to see on some of the Behringer remakes is a 'proper' daisy-chain or star-topology option whereby you can connect them together to add polyphony, but with one designated as the 'master' such that the initial patch is automatically replicated to the others and any controller changes are mirrored in a like fashion while you're playing.

Imagine 8 Berry Ds with that feature hooked up in such a manner ... now that would be quite something!
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:10 am

That would require digital control of all parameters. While doable, it would necessitate circuit changes and a move away from the authentic moog designs, almost certainly with a change in sound and/or responses to controls.

In short, it would no longer be a D...
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Wonks » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:19 am

So can we now expect a poly version of the Pro 1 and MS-20 etc?
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Wonks » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:36 am

desmond wrote:I don't understand why there is a separate On/Off rocker switch for the chorus section, when there are On/Off switches for Modes 1 and 2 already..?

Surely if both mode switches are off, the chorus is off. Want chorus mode 1? Press the button and it's on, etc, up to pressing both together for mode 3. It seems the rocker is superfluous, unless I'm missing something obvious...

It's a straight lift from the TC June 60 pedal. That has an on/off footswitch so this has an on/off switch as well. Of course it will be a true bypass switch, so the chorus is completely out of circuit when switched off. There may be some slight sonic difference with no chorus selected but I doubt it would be that noticeable. However, some purists might simply not want a chorus or distortion as part of the synth's audio circuit. Maybe a review will tell us whether there's a slight sound difference between bypass and no chorus settings.

But I feel that it's mainly there to help fill in some of the space on the right-hand side of the panel, which is certainly a lot less cluttered than the left and centre.
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