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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:52 pm

Neutron - 2 VCOs Analog semi modular

said to be shipping in april at $299

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWwI2sa4PU4

Great to see Behringer carving a new path :)
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:44 pm

In other news, a certain musical instrument manufacturer has just acquired a JP8 for their german 'Tribe', given the have acquired a OB-Xa for the UB-Xa project we can only hope they do what's required,
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby desmond » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:14 pm

DGL. wrote:In other news, a certain musical instrument manufacturer has just acquired a JP8 for their german 'Tribe'

Yer, I saw that...

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Escapegoat » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:00 pm

But getting Les Dennis in to do the sound design?! :o
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:46 pm

..and it looks like you can add Pro 1 to the list to.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:12 am

Yep, it does look like it.

Giving the people what they want. :clap: You hearing this, Roland?... :tongue:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby zenguitar » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:17 am

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Stephen Bennett » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:36 am

I see they've posted another circuit-board on Facebook.

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At this point, are Behringer in danger in becoming their own competition? How much of a market is there for inexpensive mono-synths?

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:19 am

Stephen Bennett wrote:At this point, are Behringer in danger in becoming their own competition? How much of a market is there for inexpensive mono-synths?
If the anecdotes are to be believed, stores are currently struggling to get hold of enough Model Ds to satisfy back orders.

These aren't just inexpensive monosynths. They are recreations of genuinely 'vintage' (not "I've managed to scrape up a Yamaha CS5, so I'll refer to it as 'vintage' to convince myself it doesn't belong in landfill") synths for vacuum cleaner prices. Unless you have an original I can't think of any reason *not* to want one, or indeed both, of these.

The MiniMoog and Pro-One did always complement each other very well. If the MiniMoog is Katherine Jenkins, then the Pro-One is Shane MacGowan... with a pointy stick.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Wonks » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:56 am

The Elf wrote:the Pro-One is Shane MacGowan... with a pointy stick.
So it's never going to play in tune and only going to have a couple of keys with the rest missing? ;)
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Stephen Bennett » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:30 pm

The Elf wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:These aren't just inexpensive monosynths. They are recreations of genuinely 'vintage' ....

Well not all of them are! But even if they re-released every mono ever built, people have limited space (and funds). I assume Elf-land is an unlimited void!

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Dave B » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:37 pm

Now now Stephen. Jealousy is not very becoming ... :bouncy:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:13 pm

Stephen Bennett wrote:
The Elf wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:These aren't just inexpensive monosynths. They are recreations of genuinely 'vintage' ....
Well not all of them are! But even if they re-released every mono ever built, people have limited space (and funds). I assume Elf-land is an unlimited void!
There's the Neutron, but I can't think of any others that aren't vintage recreations?...

Would that I had the funds, the space, the patch points, the input channels, the MIDI ports, etc (and the talent) to justify unlimited synths, but the Toadstool is a tiny world! :D
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Stephen Bennett » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:35 am

The Elf wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:There's the Neutron, but I can't think of any others that aren't vintage recreations?...

Just that now (and the Deepmind too, though a poly). What prompted this is a guy on GS who ordered the Boog, cancelled it for the Neutron and has now decided not to get that but whatever the above is instead (probably Pro 1).

I have no space either—but I'll get a Neutron.

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Stephen Bennett » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:37 am

Dave B wrote:Now now Stephen. Jealousy is not very becoming ... :bouncy:

Jealous of whom? What?

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Zukan » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:57 am

So we all good with a company copying legendary synths and riding off the back of the painstakingly built brand?
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby feline1 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:12 am

Zukan wrote:So we all good with a company copying legendary synths and riding off the back of the painstakingly built brand?

I wonder what Dave Smith thinks!
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:41 pm

Zukan wrote:So we all good with a company copying legendary synths and riding off the back of the painstakingly built brand?
I hear what you're saying, Zuke. I've certainly said my fair share about this issue in the past.

Putting aside Moog for a moment, if Behringer are prepared to produce the Pro-One that DSI aren't making, the ARP 2600 that ARP/Korg, aren't making, the OBXa that Oberheim aren't making, or the VP-330 that Roland aren't making... then fair game I say.

The Model D is slightly different, in that it does, indeed, tread firmly on the toes of what was a current Moog model. However... when a company like Moog are happy to slap a cheap external PSU on a 3500 quid synth I can only have so much sympathy.

The main thing is that Behringer are doing all of this legally, and that's fair enough for me.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Stephen Bennett » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:21 pm

The Elf wrote:
Zukan wrote:
The main thing is that Behringer are doing all of this legally, and that's fair enough for me.

I have a Doepfer Wasp filter, AJH make Moog module clones and SE make Oberheim and Yamaha filters.

If that's OK, I can't see the problem with what Behringer are doing if it's legal.

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby johnny h » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:40 pm

Zukan wrote:So we all good with a company copying legendary synths and riding off the back of the painstakingly built brand?
After 48 years, when the creator is no longer with us?

The company has shown next to no ambition other than to exploit the brand and has absolutely nothing to do with the original people or its spirit of innovation.
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