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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:04 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Playing your demo (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yntcyt4v3zicq ... o.wav?dl=0) , the DimD is switched in around 18 seconds in, and the synth gains a stereo width and fuller, more interesting sound at that point, as you'd expect.

But listening in mono there is no change to the synth sound at all as you run through the 18 second point. Thus, the stereo chorus effect is all in the Side channel and disappears for mono listeners, leaving just the raw synth sound.

... or maybe I've misunderstood how you created the demo...
It is definitely still there - In mono I can flip the polarity of the original dry synth and it leaves the Dim D in glorious mono! It definitely doesn't cancel. I dropped the level of the chorussed half of the demo somewhat - that's the only manipulation.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:38 pm

Hmmm... I think I've misunderstood your demo... I'll explore further when I get a chance using the UAD version of Dim D.

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby MarkOne » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm

It would be really nice if not everything vaguely Behringer related (and sometimes even not very related at that) wasn't all lumped into one behemoth of a thread.


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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Logarhythm » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:48 pm

MarkOne wrote:It would be really nice if not everything vaguely Behringer related (and sometimes even not very related at that) wasn't all lumped into one behemoth of a thread.
Don't worry - Behringer will be launching their own version of the thread in the near future, and it will be noticeably smaller thanks to mini fonts and an external supply of grumblings about numbers of keys :mrgreen:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:54 pm

Then start a new thread... ;)
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Folderol » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:24 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Then start a new thread... ;)
Won't work. It'll still end up talking about hobnobs :roll:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Rich Hanson » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:44 pm

Folderol wrote:
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Then start a new thread... ;)
Won't work. It'll still end up talking about hobnobs :roll:

Ah yes, Sound On Sound's equivalent to the Second Law of Thermodynamics :mrgreen:
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby ManFromGlass » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:50 pm

and yet nobody has written a song or theme for the beloved biscuit.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby ken long » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:07 pm

Behringer basically selling a XOXBOX circuit w/o crediting the owner.

Won't be buying any of their bootlegs.

Looking forward to seeing their "flagship".
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:51 am

ken long wrote:Behringer basically selling a XOXBOX circuit w/o crediting the owner.

Won't be buying any of their bootlegs.

Looking forward to seeing their "flagship".

Not really, it's no different to using a reference circuit from a datasheet as it's an open source design so free to everyone in the same way a lot of commercial products are built on Linux (although that's different in some ways due to the GNU licence) and they have quoted where the filter circuit for the BA22? clone circuit came from in various forum posts. Plus they are going cloning said chip anyway now so it's all a bit moot.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Eddy Deegan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:24 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:and yet nobody has written a song or theme for the beloved biscuit.

Many have tried. The problem is that you end up in a sort of infinite feedback loop where, while pondering the merits of the biscuits you end up nibbling one, which then gets you thinking about the song again and before you know it you are in a singularity and time stops.

Of course to the unfortunates stuck in that state, nothing is amiss as they are on the way to completing the song, but to the rest of us they are frozen in that moment in time forever.

It's quite sad really. Someone should write a song about it ...

In other news I've been given a 7-11 week waiting time on my Berry One, but I'm not fussed - plenty to be getting on with in the meantime and it'll be a nice surprise when it does turn up ;-)
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:41 pm

Eddy Deegan wrote:It's quite sad really. Someone should write a song about it ...

Judging by the forum album there is just one man (or perhaps time traveling garment would be a better description) who could do the job. Step forward Dr Huge Longjohns please ...

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:53 pm

to the tune of “Good Morning, Good Morning”

HobNobbing, HobNobbing,
We are all HobNobbing
HobNobbing HobNobbing
with you

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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby ken long » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:09 am

DGL. wrote:
Not really, it's no different to using a reference circuit from a datasheet as it's an open source design so free to everyone in the same way a lot of commercial products are built on Linux (although that's different in some ways due to the GNU licence) and they have quoted where the filter circuit for the BA22? clone circuit came from in various forum posts. Plus they are going cloning said chip anyway now so it's all a bit moot.

They didn't credit the developer as is required. Forum posts don't count don't be daft.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:17 pm

ken long wrote:
DGL. wrote:
Not really, it's no different to using a reference circuit from a datasheet as it's an open source design so free to everyone in the same way a lot of commercial products are built on Linux (although that's different in some ways due to the GNU licence) and they have quoted where the filter circuit for the BA22? clone circuit came from in various forum posts. Plus they are going cloning said chip anyway now so it's all a bit moot.

They didn't credit the developer as is required. Forum posts don't count don't be daft.

No need to with hardware, do companies credit the designers of reference circuits in datasheets?
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:18 pm

and a new video, though announces nothing really,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbYx0dHv5Lc
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby The Elf » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:38 pm

DGL. wrote:and a new video, though announces nothing really,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbYx0dHv5Lc
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:11 pm

You see if they announce their CS80 clone was ready wouldn't it take a bit of wind out of Korg's sails, the 2600 may be desirable but the CS80, that's a hall different ballgame.
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby N i g e l » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:08 pm

DGL. wrote:and a new video, though announces nothing really,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbYx0dHv5Lc

Is it a front panel clue ? Nothing immediately jumps into my mind, or things that did - AX80, Chroma, Source are all colour. The best I could guess would be an Oscar, its different but it is a bit black and white. Having dual numeral rows suggests a sequencer or drum machine ?
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Re: the latest Behringer-gate

Postby DGL. » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:25 pm

DGL. wrote:and a new video, though announces nothing really,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbYx0dHv5Lc

people are reckoning it's a TR-606 Drumatix, would make sense with the TB-303.

Oh, and from what I've heard on other forums the yellow TD-3 is already sold out even before they have hit the stores.

Is it a front panel clue ? Nothing immediately jumps into my mind, or things that did - AX80, Chroma, Source are all colour. The best I could guess would be an Oscar, its different but it is a bit black and white. Having dual numeral rows suggests a sequencer or drum machine ?[/quote]
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