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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby BJG145 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:15 pm

Just a quick isomorphic news update. The Dodeka Stellar looks ready to be launched on Kickstarter before too long.

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But what got me really excited was discovering a teaser video for the Tonal Plexus 2nd Generation.

This radical is-that-lego? microtonal monster has been unobtainable forever. It looks like it might finally be making a return...


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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby The Elf » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:06 pm

Wow! And people think I'm weird for falling in love with a Roli Seaboard! :headbang:
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby ManFromGlass » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:58 pm

I’m a sucker for the small seaboard and I’m waiting on their new keyboard to be delivered. I’m also waiting for a kickstarter midi flute/recorder controller thingy.
I like weird but usable. After all it’s just a bunch of switches under your fingers and I have very little keyboard training to get in the way.
Please accept that last statement as the lamest justification you’ve ever heard to buy weird cool stuff, but I’m sticking to it!
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby BJG145 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:33 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:I’m a sucker for the small seaboard and I’m waiting on their new keyboard to be delivered. I’m also waiting for a kickstarter midi flute/recorder controller thingy.

Really? What's that?
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby ManFromGlass » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:05 pm

On Kickstarter

- the recorder, re.invented

- from Roli the Lumi keyboard
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby The Elf » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:55 pm

I like Lumi as an idea, but to me it seems an expensive option for a few light-up keys. And for how long would two octaves suit a learner?

Compare it, for example, with something like this light-up keys option (from 2012!)...

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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:59 pm

The 'Re.corder' looks like serious fun.....
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby ManFromGlass » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:29 pm

The Elf wrote:I like Lumi as an idea, but to me it seems an expensive option for a few light-up keys. And for how long would two octaves suit a learner?

Compare it, for example, with something like this light-up keys option (from 2012!)...
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I thought the same as you about 2 octaves so in a burst of insanity I bought 2 to lock them together. I don’t really care about the light up keys, I’m more interested in a good feeling keybed that can do MPE. As much as I like the squishy keys of the Seaboard I hit a lot of unintended notes to either side of the intended notes. My fingers are crossed that all their marketing blah blah about the Lumi keybed is not a crock.
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby BJG145 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:40 pm

Here's a new one - the Lumatone, launched at NAMM 2020. It looks a little like the Rainboard at the top of the thread, with a harmonic table layout and illuminated keys.

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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/luma ... oming_soon

https://youtu.be/9ZozXzKOf8o

I think I might have to get one of those... :tongue:
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby Arpangel » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:52 am

Zukan wrote:Some of these are truly stunning! Even if they didn't make a sound I'd still love to own one.

Yes a lot of these alternative interfaces are very beautiful, and I’ve been tempted by them in the past, but the musical examples, and actuality playing them, has always been a disappointment. It’s as if the actual chromatic keyboard, in all its forms (even my Buchla has one) has always won out, it’s been developed over centuries, it’s like it can’t be improved upon or superseded.
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby ManFromGlass » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:54 pm

I agree but the few alternate controllers I’ve tried always inspire me to play not in my usual way. Sometimes I need that.
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby BJG145 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:59 pm

...yep, I like the way different interfaces (and that could be a MIDI violin or trumpet) make you take a different approach to playing music, and often offer up a whole new repertoire of standard pieces.

I agree that the demos for novel keyboards are usually dire, but I don't think that's because they're inherently bad, or that the standard keyboard is necessarily better (although it's clearly very good), just that few or no people have taken the time to develop the same expertise.

Some of them are destined for failure, but others have untapped potential. I'm still interested in the Dualo, and especially the discontinued "du-touch L". I think the thing is nicely designed, and capable of virtuosity rivalling the melodeon or concertina if anyone spent the time on it.
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Re: Isomorphism FTW

Postby Arpangel » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:14 pm

Just my opinion, but I think one of my best recordings (again IMO) was done without any keyboards at all, the only interface I used was a computer mouse. Every one hears it and asks what keyboards were used, none.
It also taught me how to approach sounds in a different way, although the results still sound very "traditional" even though the sounds, are quite unusual.
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