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Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:36 pm

Hi All,

Self control has deserted me again and another synth is on its way to me
(Studiologic Sledge - Chevy has a lot to answer for !)

However, I don't really have space for it - my CS-30L still doesn't have a proper home.

I've been looking into big A frame stands as I they might accomadate a couple more purchaces in the future. (also i grew up in the 80s when these were the only cool stands :blush: )

https://www.thomann.de/gb/jaspers_6d120s.htm
I'm liking this, but it can only officially support 15 kg per tier.

According to my bathroom scales
Both Crumar DS-2 and CS-30L weigh in at 20 Kg

Anyone have experience of Jasper stands, are they conservative with their loading recomendations?

I've never bought a keyboard stand before, are their other manufacturers/products that I should look at? Any pitfalls/ features to look out for ?

Thanks
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby RobinC » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:20 am

You can get strengthening bars from Jaspers that increase the max weight for a given tier. Take a look at Jaspers website https://www.jaspers-alu.de

I've got a jaspers stand (though don't have any kit as heavy as yours). It's a different design from the one you have chosen just a measily 4 tier with casta wheels But I've got an additional strengthening set and one tier has an ikea table top on it for all the odd sized kit. I've got an 2nd monitor mounted on a boom arm. Very pleased with it.

They are expensive. Not entirely convinced they are worth the money but keyboard stands seem to either be cheap and cheerful or expensive.
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Dave B » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:31 am

I think that they are being conservative with their weights. I've happily gigged with mine (I mod'ed a 2 tier to a custom size / layout) and I use 19Kg and 14kg keyboards.

In your case, I'd put the heavier ones on the lower tiers and the lighter Sledge higher up. Should be fine.
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:37 am

RobinC wrote:You can get strengthening bars from Jaspers that increase the max weight for a given tier. Take a look at Jaspers website https://www.jaspers-alu.de

Thanks I hadn't seen that, it's nice to see spares parts are available too :)

RobinC wrote: keyboard stands seem to either be cheap and cheerful or expensive.

Agree, there seems to be some middle ground missing from the market!

Dave B wrote:I think that they are being conservative with their weights. I've happily gigged with mine (I mod'ed a 2 tier to a custom size / layout) and I use 19Kg and 14kg keyboards.

In your case, I'd put the heavier ones on the lower tiers and the lighter Sledge higher up. Should be fine.

Thanks Dave.

I have a month till next payday to decide / think about this, as it's for home (not a live rig) maybe I'll bodge something DIY together .
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Dave B » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:38 pm

In which case, one of the best systems I've had is to nip down to Homebase/B&Q/Home Depot/etc and get the 'strips' which you screw into the wall and hook shelf arms into. The arms can go various lengths from short to very long which means that you can stagger the depth a bit for access. Being attached to the wall, these can take a lot of weight as well. And when it's time to move, it's half an hour with some filler and a little paint or get rid of the holes.

And it costs peanuts!

You just need to have a section of wall free - which can be the issue sometimes. I still have a couple of sets up above this desk (wot I am sitting and typing at). No synths at the moment, so they are just handy shelves. Win win, I'd say!

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Postby Adam Inglis » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:07 am

Dave B wrote:I.....get the 'strips' which you screw into the wall and hook shelf arms into. The arms can go various lengths from short to very long which means that you can stagger the depth a bit for access. Being attached to the wall, these can take a lot of weight as well.

Well, maybe. It depends on the screws and the wall and a few other things! I'm not sure I'd put them on plasterboard. I have this set up screwed straight onto brick (obviously you need a masonry type drill if you're going to do that), and I would say not to skimp on the spacing of the strips - the closer they are the more weight each shelf can take.
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Rich Hanson » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:55 am

I had that idea too for my Sledge, but the thing is so deep I couldn't find any brackets long enough to safely take it.
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Postby MarkOne » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:53 am

Rich Hanson wrote:I had that idea too for my Sledge, but the thing is so deep I couldn't find any brackets long enough to safely take it.

Spur make 470mm and 610mm brackets.

I my studio I had a Fantom G7 happily on the 610mm brackets.

Provided you have anchored the uprights with decent fixings, most of the load is downwards, so there is little chance of them pulling out.

In my previous house I had 2 walls floor to ceiling with spur shelving full of books (For the kindle generation, these things are made of dead trees, and trees are very heavy)
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Dave B » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:29 pm

The spurs/arms don't need to go the full depth of the instrument - as long as they are taking the weight nicely then they are fine. I've had JD800s on the long arms and they are deep!

If you are feeling really insecure and want extra strength, then some sticky velcro pads / strips can be attached so that the gear doesn't move about.

(This is also a trick I used to use on Ultimate Support Apex stands ;) )
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:40 pm

Sadly, the Sledge fell through!

Have gone with Dave's suggestion of spur brackets but had to move synths - the previous position was against an unused door (wouldn't have supported the weight!)

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Not perfect, but cheap, will do for now - and gives me more time for working out the best solution!
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:54 am

Well that's a successful outcome then Jumpey, even if it's only a temporary one! :thumbup:


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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Dave B » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:04 pm

That's exactly what I said ...... about 22 years ago ... ;)
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:32 pm

A bit of tweaking today

discovered some slanting twin slot shelf brackets..
with a little modification...

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CS is now nicely angled :)

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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:41 pm

Well done Jumpeyspyder, that looks very playable! :clap:


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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby Dave B » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:40 am

OOh, nice. Where did you find those?
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby MarkOne » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:50 am

Dave B wrote:OOh, nice. Where did you find those?

Indeed!.. I'd be interested to find them too
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Postby Kwackman » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:29 am

MarkOne wrote:
Dave B wrote:OOh, nice. Where did you find those?

Indeed!.. I'd be interested to find them too

Screwfix? They do various sizes.
Here's one example

https://www.screwfix.com/p/corner-braces-zinc-plated-39-x-39-x-16mm-10-pack/11067
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Re: Multiple capacity Keyboard stand needed - reccomendations advise

Postby BillB » Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:53 pm

Full shelving range here:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/Charles-Wats ... p=1&_dmd=1

Good to know what's available - I haven't seen sloping brackets before - would have saved me a load of pratting about with fitting supports under ordinary flat shelves to tilt synths etc...
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